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Offline JordAnime

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« on: September 02, 2011 »

The GOP Race has come down to a dead-heat between two mentally ill people and the guy that lost last time. 

I love how elections in America pretty much start as soon as the last one is over.  This cycle has been about as focused on the Republican candidates as ever.  I mean you've got an incumbent President whose been treated with more disrespect by his opposition than any president since old Abe Lincoln and honestly, the most backward selection of Republican candidates ever.  When the Mormon appears to be the sanest one, something is seriously wrong.

I mean I'm not saying Obama is perfect, he's been horribly limp-wristed as of late.  I mean as nice as it would be for Americans to cast aside their differences and reach across the perverbial aisle, it seems that the craziest side of each faction has just grown louder and more militant, and I think it's very fair to say that the far right side has been the loudest, craziest and most militant of them all. 

I mean even when Bush was bankrupting us with a campaign against "terror" and allowing the wealthiest corporations to keep their vast profits earned from shipping jobs overseas and taking advantage of non-existant financial and environmental oversight, I don't recall any large group of people demanding we see his birth certificate, or say that "second-amendment remidies" need to be implemented. 

Honestly, if Obama weren't a black man, he wouldn't have 80% of the flack he's been getting, sure his policy decisions would be argued, but I doubt Joe Wilson would have stood up during the State of the Union and shouted "YOU LIE!" and actually given a free pass. 

Anyway, so you've got Bachmann who's suggested McCarthy style witch hunts in congress to ween out anti-American activities, suggested The Lion King is a prime example of gay proganda, and says that if you elect her, gas will be $2 a gallon, which indicates she knows nothing about anything.  Yeah, $2 a gallon gas sounds great, but as it stands our fuel prices are HEAVILY subsidized by the government, and she cries for a lack of government in the free-market.  So how does she propose we get gas down to $2 a gallon without additional subsidies?  It's not that the oil companies are heavily taxed and need to make up for lost profits by jacking up gas prices.


Anyway, why aren't things going so well now?  Maybe it's because Americans voted in a group of people they didn't full understand just because they were dissatisfied with the current state of affairs, only to end up with a split legislature that can't get anything done due to opposition.

We're dealing with a party that held the debt-ceiling hostage as a scape goat to do away with social programs and regulations.  We're dealing with a party that blames government unions for all our problems, we're dealing with a party that thinks taxes aren't necessary to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and miserable education system.  What's the answer?  Torte reform?  Privatizing social services like the fire department?  Teaching creationism in public schools? 

Yeah, that'll really help America. 

But how do you feel?  Do you think the current crop of Presidential Candidates will restore America to glory?
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Offline Bidet to you sir

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« #1 on: September 02, 2011 »

Obama will win because the frontrunners of the GOP are unelectable.

Whether that makes Obama a good president is besides the point, he's no way near as left wing as his biggest supporters would like and not even close to as left wing as his enemies fear.

He's not even a social democrat let alone a socialist, he's a liberal, in the worst, most correct usage of that word.

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Offline JordAnime

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« #2 on: December 06, 2011 »

So how about that Herman Cain? 
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Offline Big Tater

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« #3 on: December 06, 2011 »

 

Honestly, if Obama weren't a black man, he wouldn't have 80% of the flack he's been getting, sure his policy decisions would be argued, but I doubt Joe Wilson would have stood up during the State of the Union and shouted "YOU LIE!" and actually given a free pass. 


totally not true. obama has gotten flack because he's a bad president. and i'm not just saying that because i don't like him. and no, i'm not a republican, i'm a libertarian. and i agree with joe wilson, not just because he's from my state but because he has every right to say that.

anyway, i'm kind of backing newt gingrich at this point. even though he cheated on his wife who has cancer, i'm trying to put that aside
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Offline JordAnime

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« #4 on: December 06, 2011 »

and no, i'm not a republican, i'm a libertarian

Well, so is Ron Paul, and he's running as a Republican.

Seriously, why has Obama been a bad President?  I really want the answer to this.

And don't forget about when Newt cheated on his second wife while he was lambasting Clinton for his affair, and that he was an unregistered lobbyist posting as a "historian" after his Speakership ended probably because he spent a bit too much money with his half a million dollar revolving account at Tiffany & Co. 

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Offline Big Tater

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« #5 on: December 06, 2011 »

yeah but ron paul is just ridiculous. he needs to give it up. i don't agree with most of his stances on the issues.

what has obama done to make him a good president?
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Offline JordAnime

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« #6 on: December 07, 2011 »

1.) Passed the Affordable Healthcare act which drastically reformed America's broken health care system.
2.) Killed Public Enemy Number One Ossama Bin Laden
3.) Repealed the bigoted Don't Ask Don't Tell law
4.) Helped insatiate the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection act to help us evade another financial collapse
5.)Appointed Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State who's helped to re-establish our image abroad
6.) Doesn't sound like a total half-wit when he delivers the State of the Union, or any other speech
7.) Serves as an inspiration to the millions of minorities in America that they can achieve anything

Ah that's just a few.
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Offline Big Tater

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« #7 on: December 07, 2011 »

I only agree with 2 and maybe 7.  But that's the beauty of debate, right?
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Offline JordAnime

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« #8 on: December 07, 2011 »

Really, Don't Ask Don't tell wasn't bigoted?  Our health care system is just fine and dandy?  Our image abroad isn't tarnished?  Wall Street's deregulation didn't drive our economy to the brink of destruction? 

Huh, who knew!
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Offline Big Tater

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« #9 on: December 07, 2011 »

Don't ask don't tell was a little bigoted, not saying i don't agree with gays being able to serve openly. our image abroad has always been tarnished. people have hated americans for years. and americans tarnish our reputation by going abroad and acting stupid.
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Offline JordAnime

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« #10 on: December 07, 2011 »

Yeah but usually the polls ask us about our politics, not so much now snobby American tourists are.
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