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Offline Ezlo's Apprentice

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« on: January 30, 2007 »

Please read carefully so this doesn't go pear-shaped. Thank you.

OK, I've been watching the "Zelda Elmination Game" and have a feeling its slightly flawed. TP's massive fall from grace shows that every once in a while a game can be targetted, and hit pretty darn heavily. I'll admit TP wasn't perfect, but to see it losing points to MC and LA just seemed insane.

Anyway, point being we need a new way of scoring the Zelda series. A definitive way of marking which games are the greatest. At least... So far.

We have 13 games. The official games. All you have to do is rank them in order of your favourite, to your least favourite. In Eurovision style, your top game gets 12 points. Your second game gets 11 points. Your third game, 10 points. And so on, all the way to your final game which unfortunately gets nil points. Unlucky 13, surprised?

Don't worry about adding your post to previous posts or whatever- or even including the pts in brackets. So long as your order is clear enough to read. I'll monitor this all myself and make a regular update on the running scores for each.

But for now, here's my post to hopefully show how this works.

1- OoT (12pts)
2- LttP (11pts)
3- MM (10pts)
4- OoS (9pts)
5- TP (8pts)
6- WW (7pts)
7- TMC (6pts)
8- LoZ (5pts)
9- OoA (4pts)
10- LA (3pts)
11- FSA (2pts)
12- AoL (1pts)
13- FS (0pts)

Rules and Regulations
1- Give your score only once.
2- Give your score totally honestly.
3- Debate and discuss, but don't go off topic. I encourage brief comments after each of the games to let us know why you placed what where.

Closing Date:
Whenever Phantom Hourglass is released. Once we've had a chance to play through that, look out for TDLoZRT Vol2.

Summary of the game for anyone confused
Rank the 13 official Zelda games- so far- from most to least popular. Reminder of the 13 on offer: LoZ, AoL, LttP, LA, OoT, MM, OoA, OoS, WW, FS, FSA, MC, TP

Enjoy.

[SIZE="1"]Note to the Mods: Why is this not in TGS you ask? Simple. I'm hoping for this to be a more serious contribution to the Zelda in-forum games we have than some of the others, and it also provides Newbies a chance to see where we all stand on the issue of "wich gAm3 r tH r0x0r". Thanks[/SIZE]
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« #1 on: January 30, 2007 »

1. OoT (12)
2. MM (11)
3. WW (10)
4. MC (9)
5. TP (8)
6. LttP (7)
7. LoZ (6)
8. LA (5)
9. OoS (4)
10. OoA (3)
11. AoL (2)
12. FSA (1)

Four Swords shouldn't really count, as it's not a stand alone game.
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Offline Ezlo's Apprentice

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« #2 on: January 30, 2007 »

Well, that was my argument against it, but it may still have redeeming qualities in some peoples eyes...
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Offline Wolfos

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« #3 on: January 30, 2007 »

1. OoT (12)
2. MM (11)
3. TP (10)
4. LTTP (9)
5. MC (8)
6. LA (7)
7. WW (6)
8. OoA (never played well just for 5 mins)
9. OoS (never played well just for 5 mins)
10. Aol (never played) (3)
11. Loz (never played)(2)
12. FSA (1)
13 FS (0) (never played)
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Offline Hyruleansoldier

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« #4 on: January 30, 2007 »

Great idea, EzlosApprentice. This is MUCH better than random game bashing
And I agree this thread should be in 'The Legend of Zelda' discussion. People should give their comments to the games, so we can all see which games end up being the favorites, and more importantly, why.

Here goes me. Only my top 3 is definite, the rest was a bit tougher to compare… But here goes:

1- OoT (12pts) My love for OOT will never change. Simply the greatest Zelda ever to be made. No Zelda can ever do (again) what OOT did, it’s as simple as that.
2- MM (11pts) My alltime second, only a few inches away from OOT. Its endless replayability combined with dark plot, 3 days of character, mask, heart pieces and other sidequests just make for everlasting Zelda fun.
3- LttP (10pts) My no.1 2D Zelda. It did for the 2D Zelda's what OOT did for the 3D ones. ALTTP boasts a great plot, overworld, item collection, actually challenging dungeons, great music, gameplay and the best Zelda ending ever. Unputdownable.
4- LoZ (9pts) The one that started it all. I still find myself utterly enjoying the entirety of this game. And *two* unique quests? That’s bliss. Challenging and fun to play through again… and again.
5- WW (8pts) Great plot, very interesting characters & development, addictive gameplay, tons of things to explore, which is what Zelda should always be about. I loved what they did with the cell-shading too. Though an extra dungeon would have been nice, the game is arguably the biggest Zelda (at least overworld-wise) out there.
6- TP (7pts) Great game on most aspects, including music and length, only it didn’t really surpass the other Zelda’s in a particular aspect, except visuals of course. It’s still in the first half of my favorites, so no, I don’t *hate* TP.
7- TMC (6pts) Closely followed by TMC though, which is my favorite handheld Zelda. It has a great story (Vaati, Ezlo), innovative gameplay (shrinking to the Minish world!), lots of sidequests and things to collect (figurines + kinstones!). Ezlo was my favorite helping partner, too. And Hyrule Castle Town is big fun!
8- LA (5pts) Aah, my very first Zelda game… It’s the classic of the handhelds. Having played it a lot of times, it still stands strong, even without the DX addition. It was the first to include an actual trading sequence, it had secret seashells to collect, great NPC’s, Ocarina songs and cool dungeons and bosses. So what if it was all a dream? MM in many ways was ‘unreal’ too.
9- FSA (4pts) The youngest 2D Zelda was basically an ode to ALTTP, but a *good* one. It conjured up all of the classic stuff, and added new elements. The fact you had to do this quest with four Links made this a very interesting game. The plot thickened with the Zuna tribe and the Dark Mirror, Shadow Links, Vaati AND Ganondorf. Yes, I like the FS series.
10- OoS(3pts) Liked this Oracle a bit more than OoA. It was basically an homage to LA, but a very successful one. Not only did the overworld look stunning in all four seasons, you also had the underground world of Subrosia to keep you warm. The 64 rings quest made the Oracles even better.
11- AoL (2pts) The black sheep of the series, but I would refuse to stigmatise it. After a lot of practice I managed to stay alive until the end of the game, which is the biggest feat in all Zelda challenges. The game’s mechanics are original and, to me, fun. The game’s obviously a BIG challenge, and one you should not avoid. The downside is the saving & game overs. You always lose some EXP points, and every time you save or have a game over, a number is added to your ‘games played’. And needless to say, you WILL die a lot in this game, with the pits being the most frustrating of all game deaths. These things make liking AoL harder, but still, it is a great and original game in essence.
12- OoA (1pts) I liked this one just a little bit less. Though I am a big fan of time-related puzzles, I found OoA slightly annoying at times. Other than that, the game seemed kind of… empty if you look at the overworld, even though you basically had both a past and present version. Still, not a bad game…
13- FS (0pts) Sorry FS, you are only playable with 2P and were originally conceived as an “extra”. Your story would end up being reused to create new plot elements for the Zelda series though… I did like the start of the FS series, it showed what future games could have in store for the series.

So yes, there are no real losers. There aren’t any that deserve to be ignored, hated or just really disliked. Every Zelda game has its charm, its assets, and also its public. I’m an allrounder, though I am quite picky about what I really REALLY like. In all, 13 wonderful additions to the exalted Zelda series, most of which will be played over and over again. Thank you, Nintendo.
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« #5 on: January 30, 2007 »

My top 13 Zelda games is... changing from time to time, depending on what mood I'm in, but after thinking for a while, this is what I came up with.

1 - Majora's Mask (12)

This is by far the very best Zelda game ever, it's emotional and have a great story, as well as side quests. You never get tired of playing this.

2 - Ocarina of Time (11)

Awesome story, awesome world, races, dungeons, and so on. It's just inches from Majora's Mask.

3 - A link to the past (10)

The game I grew up with. I will never stop loving this game, for example, look at the graphics: they are amazing. This game has a charm that no other Zelda game can ever compare with.

4 - Twilight Princess (9)

During my second playthrough, my love for this game faded a bit. I must admit that the story was a bit too lame and the game was way too easy. But it still is a good game. I love it. But I must add I was frozen in front of the TV in a whole week, and even stayed home from school to play this.

5 - the Wind Waker (8)

At the first sight of this game, I must admit I was sceptical against the graphics. But the graphics is amazing. The soryline was good, the races where cool and much more. I'm impressed.

6 - the Adventure of Link (7)

I think this game deserves a place of honor for having something that the 3Ds does not have. An extremly hard difficulty level. but it's not just that: the game was fun, and if you succed with something in this game, you will find yourself screaming "YEES"! That is a wonderful feeling. And the ending is the very best ending ever. I wouldn't say no to an sequell to this on the DS.

7 - Four Swords Adventures (6)

I must say, this game is fun if you play up to four players, it has a wonderful story and amazing graphics.

8 - the Minish Cap (5)

Good game, but too short, too small overworld, and too easy.

9 - Legend of Zelda (4)

This stands for simpleness, and the possibility to just enter a dungeon without the blabbing about helping them and aiding them. You gotta love the original.

10 - Link's Awakening (3)

It's good but.. I don't know, It just doesn't cach my interests that much.

11 - Oracle of Seasons (2)

I think you can sense that Capcom where making three Zelda- games at the same time, and I think they did quite a good work.

12 - Oracle of Ages (1)

It's exactle like the Seasons, but only with two worlds. That makes this one a less interesting game.

13 - Four Swords (0)

This is a fun game... but still as they said - a bonus. I will not, however, say it's not a Zelda - game, it's worth to be a Zelda game.
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« #6 on: January 30, 2007 »

Do we really need two of these threads? This is just an overly complicated way of asking us which games are our favorites.

1- OoT (12pts) Tp doesn't have anything on this game.
2- MM (11pts) Close second, very close.
3- LttP (10pts) This game just screams, "classic!"
4/5- WW (9pts) Actually, it's sort of tied w/ TP.  If only it had more dunegons...
5/4- TP (8pts)  
6- OoA  (7pts)
7- TMC (6pts) <3 Minish Cap was loveable and fun.
8- OoS (5pts)
9- LA (4pts)
10- LOZ (3pts)
11- FSA (2pts)
12- AoL (1pts)
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Offline Ezlo's Apprentice

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« #7 on: January 30, 2007 »

The story so far...
Well, there's a clear winner at the moment. Having dropped only one point, OoT rules the roost. MM is hot on its heels. While the battle for third place is still anyones.

Let's just spare a moment for FS... Ok, done. Here's the scores so far. (I'll probably do this every five or so...)

OoT 71
MM 66
LTTP 57
TP 50
WW 48
TMC 40
LoZ 29
LA 27
OoS 27
OoA 21
AoL 16
FSA 16
FS 0

And yes, there is a point to this. It's more than just "What is your favourite?"
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« #8 on: January 30, 2007 »

But when does this end?
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« #9 on: January 30, 2007 »

When people stop posting I suppose.
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« #10 on: January 30, 2007 »

An excellent supplement to my elim game! There are several Zelda games I've never played before, so I ranked them after the ones I had played and pretty much "predicted" the order in which I would enjoy them.

Note: This list is based on my personal enjoyment of the game and doesn't necessarily reflect which games I think are "the best" in the series from an objective standpoint.

1. Twilight Princess. See my TP appreciation thread.
2. Ocarina of Time. Very close to #1. 'Nuff said.
3. A Link to the Past. It's rare that I find a game just so danged fun as this one. A true SNES masterpiece.
4. The Wind Waker. The Great Sea made it hardly feel like a Zelda game, but what we got was great stuff, top-notch. And I am a big fan of the cel-shading graphics, at least for this game.
5. Majora's Mask. Unprecedented (and unsurpassed) NPC interaction, a brilliant twist on the Zelda series, an ominous mood, and greatest of all, Fierce Deity Link. But I did find the game to be sometimes bitterly frustrating.
6. The Legend of Zelda. The classic that started it all! Its ranking down at #6 has less to do with any inferiority to the above games--but only shows just what awesome games this one spawned. A true relic.
7. The Adventure of Link. There is no such thing as a bad Zelda game, not even Zelda II. While not as well liked as the others I've played, this still must be ranked as one of the better games produced for the NES. Its unfathomable challenge level makes it the  true test for any Zelda fan. And the music! The music for this game is literally the best for the NES, second only to Mega Man 3. I would consider this soundtrack to be my third favorite in the Zelda series, after OoT and TP.
8. The Minish Cap. Of all the Zelda games I have yet to play, I think this would be my favorite.
9. Four Swords Adventures. And of those same Zelda games I've never played, this one was just barely beat out by MC as the one I think I might like the most.
10. Oracle of Seasons. Never played it before. The Oracle games are also a near-tie, but what broke this tie was the notion of scenery change due to seasons. That sounds like a cool idea.
11. Oracle of Ages. Never played this one either. I wonder how far apart in years these "ages" are?
12. Link's Awakening. I've heard a lot of good things about this game, but I fear that once I get to it, even if soon, it's already been outdated pretty much.
13. Four Swords. Of all the ones I've never played, with this one I don't even have the hope of ever being able to play it. It's multi-player only, and I'm the only person I know (where I live) who is a Zelda fan. And if I did perchance find someone willing to play it, it would suck to have to coordinate schedules (esp. with my job and all) just to be able to play through the game. Single-player at least should've been an option. Or I might have to obtain a second GBA and cartridge. Either way, lame, Nintendo, lame.
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« #11 on: January 30, 2007 »

Quote from: Ezlo;20626
But when does this end?


Officially, it will end when Phantom Hourglass is released, because then there'll be a whole extra game to consider and if I'm still around, you can guarantee I'll bring in a Volume 2.
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« #12 on: January 30, 2007 »

1. A Link to the Past (12 points)
This game was, for me, the start of the franchise. When I played LoZ and AoL the first time, the games were utterly hard and frustrating. But then I got a SNES and this game, my opinion totally changed. A perfectly recreated world, with a lot of things to do, with a lot of weapons, an alternative world, a lot of dungeons, an amazing soundtrack, a perfect difficulty... The following games in the franchise always take some ideas from ALTTP; Soundtrack, characters, landmarks, weapons, mechanics, bestiary, and even story (OOT and TP). It's the only Zelda that it's perfect for me, totally beats the rest for the time it came and how big the game is.

2. Ocarina of Time (11 points)
Most franchises become really bad when going into 3D (Sonic, Castlevania...). Zelda made it quite nicely. It just ported perfectly the combat system, the weapons, the puzzles, the dungeons. But it introduced interactive music (even a playable instrument), deeper story (the child that becomes a hero and has to face its errors in a darker world) and cinematics, characters, races, climatic boss battles... An everlasting classic.

3. Twilight Princess (10 points)
TP improves the Zelda formula in a lot of ways, it's one of the most addictive Zeldas to play, the flow from dungeons to side quests and travels is just perfect, everything is in the way it should be. You see things that you couldn't imagine (weapons, locations and characters), the game is absolutely beautiful, with a gorgeous art design, a strong storyline (people should look more closely into it, it has its own emotion), good characters (Midna, Zant), a great and varied world and many wacky situations and minigames. Every Zelda has its own contribution to TP, but the game doesn't rely solely on it, it has its own personality and most of the revisited places are remade and reinvented somehow, so it isn't a OOT remake per se.
The game is a huge improvement compared with Wind Waker and undoubtly one of the best Zeldas. Although it's linear, easy and its soundtrack isn't that solid, gameplay wise, yes, could be the best Zelda. It's an example of how to make a fun and compelling videogame nowadays.

4. Majora's Mask (9 points)
They made quite a different Zelda, but in essence, the same thing. The game doesn't have the same amount of dungeons as other titles, but it's totally sincere with it: "You have 4 dungeons, but they are great and hard to reach. In exchange, you have a city where each character has a thing to say and has its own story, tied to the main one somehow, and tied with other stories. Try to guess how to make these stories progresses". The game is a "justified" rehash, which makes the atmosphere more strange (the characters the ones from OOT, but you have to guess what are the role they are taking this time), a dark and apocalyptic theme with emotive touches, great mechanics (masks, time loop, npc interaction) and a perfectly fine difficulty makes MM my second favourite 3D Zelda after TP, but possibly not the best overall. It just delivers something the others don't: Clock Town and NPC interaction.

5. Link's Awakening (8 points)
When no one believed that Zelda could be made on a handheld, bam, Nintendo did it. LA re-scaled the game into a handheld perfectly, and it's one of the funniest and quickest Zeldas to pick and play. The dungeons are short, but have a great design and are very fun to play. The game is indeed short, but a blast. The story can be summed in 3 lines, but it's melancholic, and the ending could be one of the best 3 endings in the franchise.
LA introduced many features to the series, and along OOT and ALTTP, is the Zelda that have contributed the most: Trading sequence, the tasks before each dungeon, NPC interaction, fishing, the first Zelda that doesn't take place in Hyrule, item combinations, jumping, photographs (in the DX version) and bosses like the Bird or the bomb eating creatures are routines often used in the following games.

6. Oracle of Ages (7 points)
OOA features more puzzles and more thinking than its counterpart, which I have a tendency to like (it's hard to find great puzzles nowadays). Its main feature is time-travelling in a 100 years gap, which is pretty much like ALTTP's Dark World, but more "exploited". OOA's plot involved travelling between past and future, and you got to meet characters in the past that were dead in the future, or they had grandsons. Or just visiting the same place in other era... how nice. For me, it's the Zelda that has true time-travelling. Plus the dungeons.

7. Oracle of Seasons (6 points)
OOS have more action and packs more hack & slash. The seasons are more innovative that the OOA's time travelling, which makes the overworld a giant puzzle.

8. The Wind Waker (5 points)
TWW has possibly the best overall story in the franchise, many epic moments (like when you visit the old Hyrule, the prayings or the ending itself) and a very special cartoonish style and mood. But gameplay wise, the game was another OOT: The old items are used in a similar fashion, making the puzzles very obvious and repetitive if you played OOT before (use the stick to lit the torches many, many times). The sailing mechanics needed some tweaking as it could result repetitive and boring until you get the Ballad of Gales. There is a serious lack of dungeons, the game tries to fill those with many subquests and the crappy Triforce quest. Most islands were the same, failing to take advantage of the cell-shading to make more artistic places, which make me think if they used the cell-shading for taking advantage of it or just to make a quick game, because it lacks graphic detail (look at TP or OOT graphic efforts for example).
Nintendo usually does better, and that's because was released in a time where Nintendo needed hot titles quickly. Never ever rush a Zelda again.
The game isn't bad, but it could be way better if they wanted to.

9. Four Sword Adventures (4 points)
Playing this game alone isn't nothing special, but if you have 3 friends, this game is a blast.

10. The Minish Cap (3 points)
A lot of NPC interaction, good ideas for weapons and the kinstones are a great addition, but overall, it was a huge step back from the Oracles. There is no way a 2D game could be this small, at this day and age.

11. The Legend of Zelda (2 points)
Of course it isn't a bad game, but it doesn't offer anything the other can't. I just recommend this game to friends that want to know the roots of the franchise, but nothing more.

12. The Adventure of Link (1 point)
Good ideas (magic and skills), but they got scolded for changing the mechanics that much. Good game, and very very hard.
(I'm not a vintage whore...).

13. Four Swords (0 points)
It isn't a bad game, but the 0 has to be dropped somewhere.
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« #13 on: January 30, 2007 »

3. Twilight Princess (10 points):
TP improves the Zelda formula in a lot of ways, it's one of the most addictive Zeldas to play, the flow from dungeons to side quests and travels is just perfect, everything is in the way it should be. You see things that you couldn't imagine (weapons, locations and characters), the game is absolutely beautiful, with a gorgeous art design, a strong storyline (people should look more closely into it, it has its own emotion), good characters (Midna, Zant), a great and varied world and many wacky situations and minigames. Every Zelda has its own contribution to TP, but the game doesn't rely solely on it, it has its own personality and most of the revisited places are remade and reinvented somehow, so it isn't a OOT remake per se.
The game is a huge improvement compared with Wind Waker and undoubtly one of the best Zeldas. Although it's linear, easy and its soundtrack isn't that solid, gameplay wise, yes, could be the best Zelda. It's an example of how to make a fun and compelling videogame nowadays.


I agree with you. However, I feel (As EzlosApprentice said) like the story is rushing towards the end. Otherwise it's a good story, and I think the game is gravely underestimated.
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« #14 on: January 30, 2007 »

Yes, TP lacks of a strong event during the last part of the game (dungeons 6, 7 and 8), a tie with the final segment of the game.
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« #15 on: January 30, 2007 »

Ocarina of Time-12 simply the best zelda ever, innovative and it was just amazing!
Majora's Mask-11 I really enjoyed htis game, the masks and the storyline was very cool, all the sidequests were very fun
Legend of Zelda-10 the one that started it all, i love this game and find myself going back toplay and it enjoy it just as much as the first time
A Link to the Past-9 Very close to the original, and it was an instant classic, simply put this game was fun and very very good.
Link's Awakening-8The first zelda gaem to grace the handheld, it was awesome. a goo stroyline and a fullorchestrated last song for the wind fish. And it was protable
Adventure of Link-7 the was probably one of the most difficult zelda's ever made, i wasnt too fond of the side scrolling thign for quite awhile, but once you beat the thunderbird and shadow link it is oh so satisfying
Wind Waker-6 this game came to a shock to me after the teaser trailer, that wasnt cartoony, but you knwo it really wasnt that bad of a game. i had a lot fo fun with this game, and enjoyed it
Twilight Princess-5 it was pretty close to WW, i liked the graphics and all and the darker storyline was a new taste but it lacked something, that said i still had a lot fo fun with this gaem and enjoyed it.  
Oracle of Ages-4 this game wasnt that bad, it was ok but it just wasnt my favorite, i still had a little fin with it, wespecially on long car trips.
Oracle of Seasons-3 it was just a little shorter then Ages to me, different puzzels and more hack 'n' slash and the seasons were kidn acool but it had a small impact on me like Ages. good for car trips though
Minish Cap-2 it had good NPC intereaction, soem good ideas, and the kinstones were kinda cool, but it was smaller then the Oracle games, which was unexpected to me, andit was a littel easy to me.
FSA-1 by yourself this game pretty much bombs, but it gets a 1 because withyour friends it can be a little fun.
FS-0 0 had to go somewhere.
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« #16 on: January 30, 2007 »

1. Twilight Princess (12 Points)

In my mind, Twilight Princess surpassed Ocarina of Time in nearly every aspect. The overworld was the best in any Zelda yet, the dungeons were awesome, the new items were all well designed, the storyline was great, the combat was greatly expanded upon, horse riding is more fun than ever, the bosses were huge and epic, there were so many things to do, to find, and to explore... And the game is absolutely huge.

TP takes all the features of OoT, enhances them, and expands upon them, while adding new elements at the same time. The way I see it, everything that was in OoT has been made better with TP.

Although I personally prefer the plot of OoT, TP's plot is great in its own right, and besides, it's gameplay that really matters.

I know it lacks NPC-related sidequests, but I don't really mind this too much. TP has plenty of "sidequests" of it's own without NPCs, such as exploring the world for hidden caves and chests, completing all the unique minigames sprinkled throughout the quest, and searching for all the things to collect.

It's really TP's only "major" fault, but even then it's very minor to me. It's not like OoT had many of such sidequests either, so... I don't see this as a reason for TP not being better than OoT.

2. Ocarina of Time (11 points)

Does this even need an explanation? OoT is still a great game, especially for its time. This game took all the elements of the 2D Zeldas and perfectly transported them into 3D. The dungeons all had incredible designs (yes, even the Water Temple), the overall quest had great pacing to it, the time travel element was executed very well, the story was very enjoyable, the items were fun and varied, the combat was absolutely awesome (for it's time, at least)...

But it was not without flaws, especially in comparison to TP. The overworld was empty and devoid of life, with the exception of StalChildren as a child and a few Peahats tucked away in a corner. There was the occasional hidden grotto, sure, but each of these were found in the same way; bombing/hammering a rock, which isn't very interesting.

Horse riding is underdeveloped, and serves basically serves as a way to make the overworld less boring. You could do nothing but shoot a bow while atop Epona, and even then, there was nothing to shoot, except for the occasional Poe. It was also annoying that Epona was restricted the Hyrule Field (with the exception of Gerudo Valley). Combat is also not incredibly deep compared to even what we get in TWW.

Nevertheless, OoT is an exceptionally well-made game. My favorite element from OoT would probably be the dungeons, the designs of which rival the designs of all of TP's dungeons.

3. The Wind Waker (10 Points)

So much potential... However, that was wasted do to time constraints. In terms of mechanics, TWW easily surpasses OoT. Many point to sailing as the game's main flaw, but I disagree and found it great fun to explore the Great Sea (although it has nothing on TP's overworld). The amount of NPC sidequests is amazing, and they can actually fun (unlike MM's time-based ones, in my mind).

The main problem is the lack of many dungeons and the monotonous Triforce Quest halfway through the game that artificially extends playtime. The story, however, is told excellently, and might just be my favorite Zelda story, even above OoT.

4. A Link to the Past (9 points)

Never been much of a fan of 2D Zeldas, but this game seriously impressed even still with it's great storyline, dungeons, bosses, overworld, items... Everything. I've never actually beaten it, but I can see why some would consider it better than OoT. I, personally, prefer 3D Zeldas, though.

5. The Minish Cap (8 points)

Unfortunately, I've never beaten this game. But from what I've played, it's a great return to the classic 2D style of games like ALttP.

6. Link's Awakening (7 points)

I'm playing this currently, and surprisingly, I'm really enjoying it. The dungeons have some really clever puzzles to them and there's a lot of good NPC interaction for a Gameboy game. Very impressive, considering the platform it's on.

7. Majora's Mask (6 points)

Meh. I've never completed it, and it's a well-made game and all, but I've always disliked the time system. I've found it either makes you feel rushed or bored, and it prevents me from really taking my time and enjoying the game like I can in any other Zelda game. Also, I really dislike how few dungeons there actually are, and how much the game relies on montonous sidequests.

I was giving the game a second chance recently, and it frustrated me just how much I had to go through just to get to the first dungeon... And that first dungeon was the most boring, uninspired dungeon I've ever played. I eventually gave up from boredom after getting the Goron mask (although previously, I'd gotten as far as the Zora mask).

I dislike how much the game forces you to use your mask transformations as well. I keep trying to be normal Link, but I feel like the game is always forcing me to use whatever the newest transformation I've gotten is. It doesn't feel fun like Wolf Link did to me.

10. Legend of Zelda (5 points)

Still remains fun today (albiet very frustrating for me, but I've always sucked at 2D Zeldas). What surprises me about this game is its openness, and the ability to go practically anywhere, unlike in most other Zelda games, which are much more linear.

9. Four Swords Adventures (4 points)

Never got to play too much of this in multiplayer, but it's actually quite a fun party game. Very different for a Zelda game, but still enjoyable. Shame it's so difficult to actually do multiplayer, with all the requirements.

10. The Advenure of Link (3 points)

Can't say I've played much of this, but I've always found it's sidescrolling perspective questionable. It did introduce many RPG-like elements that would become staples of the Zelda series later on, though. It was also exceedingly frustrating. It can still be fun, though, especially with nostalgia.

11. Four Swords (2 points)

Uh... I've never played it. But hey, it's gotta be at least half as fun as FSA, right?

12. Oracle of Ages (1 points)

Never played it, but I can't imagine it being too much different than OoS. I've heard it's better, too, so...

13. Oracle of Seasons (0 point)

Played some of this a long time ago, so it's difficult to remember... But I can't remember it ever being very fun or interesting. Definitely not as enjoyable as Link's Awakening is right now. I don't remember feeling any drive to continue or finish the game, so it must have been boring.
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Offline Ezlo's Apprentice

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« #17 on: January 30, 2007 »

The Story So Far: Part Two
Well, there goes our tenth entry. And hooray for FS getting it's first points. The top three remain virtually unchanged, although OoT has missed out on the top spot in 4 entries so far.

Here are the scores so far stat fans.

OoT- 116
MM- 100
LttP- 97
TP- 89
WW- 78
TMC- 58
LOZ- 53
LA- 51
OoS- 39
OoA- 35
AoL- 33
FSA- 29
FS- 2
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Offline ZeldaMaster

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« #18 on: January 30, 2007 »

Rock on OoT! it looks good until , what i this, MC should definately not surpass LoZ or LA period. but oh wel, what can you do right?
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There is an evil within...can you control it and use it to fight evil, or will you succumb to it? the choice is yours...
Offline Mattsasa

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« #19 on: January 30, 2007 »

1. The Twilight Princess/ That's Right!/12
2. Ocarina of Time/ I know not first place, I'm sorry/11
3. The Wind Waker/I loved the shell-shaded animation/10
4. A link to the Past/9
5. Majora's Mask/If it wasn't for the masks this game would not be five/8
6. Four Swords Adventure/ Yep, I just love co-op!/7
7. Link's Awakening/6
8. The Minish Cap/ I didn't think it was that good/5
9. The Legend of Zelda/4
10. Oracle of Ages/Definitely better than seasons!/3
11. Four Swords/It's just hard to find 3 friends with adapter cables, gameboy advence, and a copy of the game/2
12. Oracle of Seasons/1
13. Adventure of Link/Just didn't light my fire/0

Thanks for adding everything up for us EzlosApprentice!
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