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Offline Emcnelis

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« on: April 01, 2007 »

I AM BACK PEOPLE!!!! Like it or not I have returned after a few weeks and the break was really worth it. I will now be posting topics that MIGHT interest most of you here. But first I wanna talk about The Tao of Bill.

NOTE: This might be my last topic depending of how T.A.O.'s reaction will be cause I could be banned for this. ^^'.

So anyway have you notice how badass ToB is? Well let me tell you. He bitched bout Twilight Princess being the worst Zelda game ever cause of lack of side quests, then about the GC because it was crap and about friends codes probably because they are annoying. Let's start with TP. (Tao of Bill I hope you're reading this!)

He branded TP as the Worst Zelda Game to date because of the lack of side quests, confusing storyline and things (eg the Temple of Time) that don't have a direct link to the other games. I understand that this annoys some people (like how Ganon cant remember Link or how Midna's hoggin the spotlight) but sooner or later you WILL get over it and you WILL find out why! There's no need to show your anger at Ninty who worked long and hard to finish the game. So you should praise them for the hard work! If not go to an Anti-Twilight Princess Fanclub!

Next up, the GameCube! ToB ranted about it's Nintendo at its worst because it doesnt support the internet much or at all and it has "not so brilliant" games! NOT SO BRILLIANT!!! Hello? Have you forgotten about Resident Evil 4 and LoZ:TWW? Not to mention Metal Gear Solid!! I'm really ashamed of you you know! If we didnt have the GC we wouldnt have Zelda: TWW and TP, Mario Sunshine, Sonic Adventures and Resident Evil 0, 1 and 4! Really! Get your act together!! > Don't you ever say that Nintendo is getting worse by each console ever AGAIN!!

And finally the friend codes!! He bitched about how the friend codes are an unnecessary restriction from unknown people while the other companies have something easier! Well we wouldnt want a murderer in contacting us using Wii messaging so he can send threatening email and pictures of his victims to us! That's probably why we need friend codes these days! I know this has been up your ass for a while but just give it a rest! If you want a reason why send a email to Nintendo and they might tell you why friend codes exist in the first place!

And finally to finish this forum off a final note. Tao of Bill, please just calm down! When I hear you talking all I can hear is a whiny kid who's 10 years old who won't shut the hell up and chill!! If you want respect you have to be calm and talk bout the subject that annoys you! You're not Foamy you know! If you wont calm down you should be ashamed of yourself for calling yourself a Nintendo fan and you should be shot! I'm asking you NOW to just chill, respect everyone and what they like. Or else you would get a peptic ulcer!

Words of Wisdom, man!



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Offline GAMEFREAK

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« #1 on: April 01, 2007 »

First off its Tao of Bill not Toa of Bill
Secondly Twilight Princess is, besides FS and FSA, probably if not the worse one of the worst Zelda titles to date.  It has great mechanics and graphics but it is not a good Zelda at all.  Damn Midna.
Goodbye Emcnelis!  Have a joyous life. 
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Offline Emcnelis

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« #2 on: April 01, 2007 »

I knew I would get some hate from this... Well then screw you!
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Offline GAMEFREAK

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« #3 on: April 01, 2007 »

Never said I hated you dude.  Just you gotta let people have their opinions.  I even said have a good life because for flipping on a moderators opinion is sure as hell gonna get you banned. And than cursing at me for no reason.
I'd delete these posts of yours and request for a mod, other than Tao, to send this thread away.
If you want to stay of course, but after what you said I could care less. 
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Offline Emcnelis

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« #4 on: April 01, 2007 »

Then i take back wat i said 2 u then. But nonetheless I dont care if i get banned. I just dont want any anger from just 1 single member because he has issues
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Offline GAMEFREAK

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« #5 on: April 01, 2007 »

Alright than.
See you on the other side.
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Offline Bidet to you sir

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« #6 on: April 01, 2007 »

Can I just sum this up?
Bill doesn't like Twilight princess or Gamecube, so you make a thread ranting and raving about it, and complain about his anger issues?
God while I might also believe that the gamecube isn't as bad as it says, it's really not a big deal.
Also the whiny 10 year old thing?
Might want to look up 2 words, hypocrisy and ironic.
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Offline Maladroit Thief

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« #7 on: April 01, 2007 »

*sigh*

Just drop it....you can't change someone's feelings at all or their opinions.  Some people like to believe they did but you just can't.  I liked Twilight Princess as a game myself.  But, as a Zelda series game, not so much...
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Offline The Tao Of Bill

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« #8 on: April 01, 2007 »

I AM BACK PEOPLE!!!! Like it or not I have returned after a few weeks and the break was really worth it. I will now be posting topics that MIGHT interest most of you here. But first I wanna talk about The Tao of Bill.


Wow I feel so special. I actually affected someone's life so much that they felt the need to create an entire topic about me lol. That's cool!

NOTE: This might be my last topic depending of how T.A.O.'s reaction will be cause I could be banned for this. ^^'.


Nah I wouldn't ban you for something like this. I'll even keep the topic open for a bit. As long as things stay calm. I'd like to take this time right now to say that I am open to peoples critique of me. Generally it's best to PM me about things like this but we can discuss this openly if you would like. But the second things get hostile warnings will be handed out. Kapeesh?


So anyway have you notice how badass ToB is? Well let me tell you. He bitched bout Twilight Princess being the worst Zelda game ever cause of lack of side quests


I said worst 3D zelda. But okay...

then about the GC because it was crap and about friends codes probably because they are annoying.


mhm

(Tao of Bill I hope you're reading this!)


I am!

He branded TP as the Worst Zelda Game
3D Zelda...
to date because of the lack of side quests, confusing storyline and things (eg the Temple of Time) that don't have a direct link to the other games.


My only beef was lack of sidequests. I don't care about timeline issues. That's not my thing.

I understand that this annoys some people (like how Ganon cant remember Link or how Midna's hoggin the spotlight) but sooner or later you WILL get over it and you WILL find out why! There's no need to show your anger at Ninty who worked long and hard to finish the game. So you should praise them for the hard work! If not go to an Anti-Twilight Princess Fanclub!
I disagree. bitching is what makes the world go 'round. Advancement in technology almost always comes from someone saying man this sucks there has to be a better way. It's the same with video games. You gotta point out what's wrong with games and you have to make a big deal when one of your favorite series is turning into a mediocre one. Nintendo can't be caught sleeping on this one. It's important they know what we hated so that they can correct it in future Zeldas. Zelda needs to evolve or it won't be able to compete. It's that simple.


Next up, the GameCube! ToB ranted about it's Nintendo at its worst because it doesnt support the internet much or at all and it has "not so brilliant" games! NOT SO BRILLIANT!!! Hello? Have you forgotten about Resident Evil 4 and LoZ:TWW? Not to mention Metal Gear Solid!! I'm really ashamed of you you know! If we didnt have the GC we wouldnt have Zelda: TWW and TP, Mario Sunshine, Sonic Adventures and Resident Evil 0, 1 and 4! Really! Get your act together!! > Don't you ever say that Nintendo is getting worse by each console ever AGAIN!!


My arguement wasn't that good games weren't there. It was that there weren't enough good games. I was a gamecube owner. I experienced the long gameless droughts of both the Nintendo gamecube and the Nintendo 64. I've been a Nintendo owner since the 64 came out and frankly after 10 years of having complete lack of 3rd party support I had given up on Nintendo. I still don't trust the wii very much which is why I got a 360. And I am glad I did because there isn't a game I think I would like playing until well into this year. Nintendo is arrogant when it comes to 3rd parties. They force developers to develop how they want and only how they want. They push big developers away by restricting creativity. This has long been true and it hasn't even seemed to stop even with all the interest 3rd parties have been taking to the Wii. Nintendo just sucks at bringing in a decent amount of good games and while there are some good games they are few and far between when compared to a system like the PS2. The PS2 has thousands of titles and in no way does sony attempt to restrict what kinda game their developers can make. Which is why there is a serious lack of inovative 3rd party titles for the gamecube and an abundance of inovative 3rd parties on the ps2. Sure 1st partys are great on nintendo but you get sick of playing as the same characters after awhile.

And finally the friend codes!! He bitched about how the friend codes are an unnecessary restriction from unknown people while the other companies have something easier! Well we wouldnt want a murderer in contacting us using Wii messaging so he can send threatening email and pictures of his victims to us! That's probably why we need friend codes these days! I know this has been up your ass for a while but just give it a rest! If you want a reason why send a email to Nintendo and they might tell you why friend codes exist in the first place!


The whole "it's safer" thing is stupid. friendcodes can be given to "Murderers" just as easily as gamertags. Not to mention the Wii allows for internet access which is far more dangerious than a video game lobby. If nintendo wants to protect kids thats admirable of them. But they are going about it the wrong way. They should have pariental locks that are capable of not only locking out games by ratings but also locking out online play thus effectively protecting children. Friendcodes is not only a lame way to protect children (as it doesn't really work well in that respect) but it alienates adult users who don't need the protection and yet are forced to deal with it. And nintendo has already gotten bad press in the past for alienating adult players.

And finally to finish this forum off a final note. Tao of Bill, please just calm down! When I hear you talking all I can hear is a whiny kid who's 10 years old who won't shut the hell up and chill!! If you want respect you have to be calm and talk bout the subject that annoys you! You're not Foamy you know! If you wont calm down you should be ashamed of yourself for calling yourself a Nintendo fan and you should be shot! I'm asking you NOW to just chill, respect everyone and what they like. Or else you would get a peptic ulcer!
I think you are being a bit hostile to me actually and I think you should be calm. You are getting so upset over a game company and one man's opinion of it. You can't control people's opinion. I kept this topic open because I am open to any critique about me but I really need you to calm down and respect me as a person or you actually will see reprocussions from it. If you want to discuss me fine but you are going to have to be a bit more mature about it.

This goes for everyone. I appretiate the support some of you have given but there is no reason to get hostile here. I am a man of peace. That is the tao of bill.

Words of Wisdom, man!

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Offline Ezlo's Apprentice

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« #9 on: April 01, 2007 »

"Tao of Bills Anger Problems" clearly do not exist, as the above post shows.

This really boils down to a difference of opinion, there always will be between many different members on a forum such as this. Personally, I adored the Gamecube (there are so many hidden gems on that console) and would say that Twilight Princess was "not the strongest 3D Zelda" rather than "the worst" but that's just a look into choice of language really.

As for the Friend Codes issue, I have now been turned to the Dark Side and agree they are an unecessary restriction on what has become a key part of video gaming. It was even the first question I submitted to Everybody Votes... I'm happy to apply just the Wii Code, Bill prefers a gamer ID.

Differing opinions are actually what make us special, and what makes this board special. Kind of makes you miss Bilbo... 
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Offline Hyruleansoldier

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« #10 on: April 02, 2007 »

You gotta point out what's wrong with games and you have to make a big deal when one of your favorite series is turning into a mediocre one. Nintendo can't be caught sleeping on this one. It's important they know what we hated so that they can correct it in future Zeldas. Zelda needs to evolve or it won't be able to compete. It's that simple.

Very good point. It's also TSA's point, and he's recently made another splendid article on the evolution of the series. So yes, bitchin' is good.

My argument wasn't that good games weren't there. It was that there weren't enough good games. I was a gamecube owner. I experienced the long gameless droughts of both the Nintendo gamecube and the Nintendo 64.

And that argument was quite just. I absolutely loved the N64 (and the Cube to a slightly lesser extent). The games I owned (and still own obviously) were wonderful, wonderful things, each and every one of them. And I'm still discovering and rediscovering li'l pieces o' Gold I had abandoned in ages long gone.

But yes, they made us wait for good games. I'm one for replaying my games over 'n over, so I don't get tired of a game easily. That being said however, every once a while I needs me a new game. And if the waiting period is too long, one starts to gradually lose interest in the whole thing. (It's one of the reasons why I ended up not buying Pokémon Stadium 2 at the time - nothing good for the 64 had been coming out for ages, and I ended up not caring much about it anymore.
Yes, I had to include that in my post  Fortunately that mistake has been corrected...

There is no reason to get hostile here. I am a man of peace. That is the tao of bill.

And a splendid attitude to entertain it is. I just wish more people would take to peace 'n ease rather than hostility and getting all worked up over naught...

Those are *my* Words of Wisdom
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Offline Emcnelis

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« #11 on: April 02, 2007 »

I'm not saying that bitching is a bad thing. Hell I sometimes bitch but what if someone bitches far too often? Wouldn't that annoy you?
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Offline Maladroit Thief

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« #12 on: April 02, 2007 »

Not really....I'm an acceptance kind of guy (most times) and I just deal with the fact that some people tend to get annoying sometimes. 
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Offline Shin Illuminated

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« #13 on: April 03, 2007 »

Hell I sometimes bitch...

Sometimes?

but what if someone bitches far too often?

Um...no comment.

Wouldn't that annoy you?

Just don't ask for a show of hands.
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Offline Loki

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« #14 on: April 05, 2007 »

I'm not saying that bitching is a bad thing. Hell I sometimes bitch but what if someone bitches far too often? Wouldn't that annoy you?
I've never read a single post of yours where you aren't whining about something, Em. Hell, this whole thread is just a little bitch-fest for you.
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« #15 on: April 05, 2007 »

To be honest, I don't think this is an issue of mature debate and it's gone on long enough, if you have serious problems with a moderator, for instance if the moderator is constantly harassing you or you feel he's warning you unjustly, contact one of the administration and we'll review your case.  Otherwise, if you just have a difference of opinion, don't make it a public spectacle, it's unnecessary. 
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