Okay, so you agree that the PlayStation 3 isn't worth it right now but might be down the line when better games come out? Well you certianly had no trouble tooting it as being the best deal out there not too long ago. But I'll be sure to hold you to that one if this debate continues and should it resurface.
Best deal out there? Why are you making things up after the fighting has
finally subsided? Okay...Let's look at the very first post I made in this thread. Remember that I examined the systems from a technical (components) and figurative (games, fun value, etc.) standpoint. Here we go:
I argued that the PS3 was one of the best deals technically, in terms of production costs and such. The thing is Jord, we weren't talking about technical components (in which case it's still one of the best deals). Look at what you quoted me on:
There's one important distinction between Sony executives and myself Jord. Sony executives are idiots who want you to buy the system now and then wait until you're 80 for games, as the system has a lot of potential down the line. Key here is that they want your money NOW. My stance is that people should keep the PS3 in mind.
We were talking about
games, and what slim pickings there are. That pushes this into scenario 2: Figurative worth. Now let's see what I
actually said there.
360- The 360 Boasts the best library available in the present, as well as a strong line up in the future. At the present time you can pick up Gears of War and Lost Planet. The 360 also has strong multiplatforms that it shares with the PS3, which include R6V and Oblivion. Without a doubt, the strongest feature of the system is its online play, which is superior in every way to the competition. I'm not going to stretch this out any further than I have to- The 360 is currently the best system available. I'm going to buy a 2nd 360 (an elite version) as soon as possible.
See that bolded statement there? That's me calling the 360 (hands down) the best system available (and thus the best deal based on exclusives and such). Notice how I kept good on my promise too. Let's see what I actually said about the PS3:
PS3- The Ps3's heavy hitters right now are Motorstorm and Resistance. The Ps3 also boasts an enormous amount of quality multiplatform games as well. The PS3 also has a wide range of upcoming games as well, including lair, Ratchet and Clank Future:Tools of destruction, Warhawk, Killzone, MGS4, GoW3, FF13, and Heavenly Sword. Some sources say some of these may be out in September (
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6168749.html). I'm not sure about the exclusivity claims in the link though. I guess I'll wait there. Also recall that HOME and Littlebig planet are two excellent additions to the system. HOME, in particular, beats out any equivalent on another system.
The PS3 boasts incredible high-definition visuals, and has good online play. In my experience with PSN, I've never lagged or been booted from a match (a feat which is pretty remarkable). It's an excellent online service, and will probobly be the 2nd best we'll see this generation. Overall, it's definitely worth the money. Heck, I'm going to buy a 2nd one pretty soon!
I don't see anywhere in there where I said the PS3 was the best deal. All I've said is that it's worth the money. The only confusion you have is due to your own interpretation as to what I said, as is prefaced in this statement:
Okay, so you agree that the PlayStation 3 isn't worth it right now but might be down the line when better games come out?
I never said that the PS3 isn't worth the money. I said that the PS3 isn't worth the money to some people. To use EA's own words against him-
Worth is a subjective thing
If I didn't personally think it was worth it, why would I be looking for a second? It just wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. I'm simply playing upon the idea that an unbiased Nintendo fan (not fanboy)-say, GAMEFREAK- doesn't always see the PS3 as worth it at the moment, and that's perfectly acceptable in his (and other's) case. The reason I'm on my "high horse" as so many people call it, is because of those people who are blatant fanboys and trolls. As of right now, that seems to be almost everyone, save a few people. Their opinions are tainted, and are influencing people who are legitimately on the fence in a negative way. It's annoying and rediculous, but that's neither here nor there.
If you really want my opinion on the system's worth, read what I've stated or ask me again personally. I'll be more than happy to voice my opinion. Just for kicks, I'll reiterate what I've said before-
It doesn't take a whole lot to get me to buy a system. I've been buying consoles/having consoles bought for me just because I want to give everything a try and play all the big name games. The PS3 was immediately worth it to me when I saw Resistance: Fall of Man. I'm pretty sure a few people have seen me rant about Ratchet and Clank before. Insomniac games is my favorite new publisher. When I saw a PS3 game made by them was going to be available at launch, I was sold on the system. My purchasing standards may not meet that of other members, but hey.
Anyways, even after being sold on the system I weighed upcoming exclusives, just to see how much lasting appeal the system would have. I saw games like Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Warhawk, Lair, Killzone 2, MGS4, FFXIII and was estatic.
I think what seperates me from most people is that I don't mind waiting at all. I have a Wii and a 360 to keep me busy while I wait. . It's one of the undeniable perks of having the three systems. When one leg fails, there are two others to support it. I think that may be the reason why people think I couldn't possibly think that it's "worth it".
Other than that, I knew the system would have a revamped online service (which is a notable improvement over the PS2's online), and High Def capabilities. Because I had already had a HD TV in the house (Our house later got a Plasma Screen to accompany the PS3/360 and Wii), it was really an incentive to get the system. I think that's another thing that seperates me from others, and doesn't permit people to understand me- I can benefit from all of the system's features. I'm not naive enough to believe that all people can benefit (as I'm one of the few who has an HD TV) from all the features. Based on my experiences, I really like watching movies in high resolutions, as well as playing games in high settings. That's really why I think the Ps3 is worth it. The experience is all there if you can benefit from it. I can, which is why I issued a resounding "yes" to the question of whether or not the system was worth it.
Hopefully, I've stated my case clearly enough for people as to why I think it's worth it.

. You may disagree with me, but at least people know where I stand on the issue- Because (as Jord's post proved) people have different opinions on the matter.
EDIT: I'll likely not be able to respond to posts from now on. I'm heading out for 3 days. It'll be interesting to see how the thread goes without me. And Korenshei, feel free to catch up and post. It couldn't possibly get any more chaotic than it is presently, so feel free to throw your hat in the ring.