About the Timeline

[Fairy penguin]

Well, now they're trying to fix it, at least. I would say it did split, because Link didn't seem that wise, seeing as he never talks. He also did seem more courageos than the other two powers. And according to Aonuma, Link went back to right before he talked to Zelda.

[LexLionHart]

Why can't Ganon have touched the Triforce to split it again so that Link+Zelda could get their pieces for OoT's ending/TP?

[Fairy penguin]

When would he have done that? If Link goes back to when he only has the Kokiri Emerald, then how would Ganon get into the SR? It would also probably cause the future to happen again. Also, it would take a damn good fanfic for this to work.

[LexLionHart]

When would he have done that? If Link goes back to when he only has the Kokiri Emerald, then how would Ganon get into the SR? It would also probably cause the future to happen again. Also, it would take a damn good fanfic for this to work.

Emphasis mine.

And it wouldn't cause the future to happen again; the story is that "he was blind to any danger", and thus was "exposed, subdued, and brought to justice" because of that folly. Aonuma expands on this by saying how this is so: through Link's conversation with Zelda.

Link's conversation with Zelda didn't exist in Adult OoT; it does in Child OoT. Even if Ganon gets the Triforce of Power, he was only "exposed, subdued, and brought to justice" in the Child timeline.

[Fairy penguin]

At the time he didn't know he had the ToP, or he got it right when he got stabbed.

[LexLionHart]

At the time he didn't know he had the ToP, or he got it right when he got stabbed.

1) You don't know that he didn't know he had it.
2) He "had been blessed" with the chosen power of the gods, the sages say, when they relay this story to you. Not "was blessed"; "had been blessed". Meaning he was blessed BEFORE he "was" exposed. ("Had been" taking precedent to "was".)

[Fairy penguin]

Yeah, but he was sealed in the TR a long time ago, so it could mean he recieved it then. If they knew he had it, do you really think they would have been surprised when he had it? Do you really think they wouldn't have taken more precautions against him?

[LexLionHart]

If they knew he had it, do you really think they would have been surprised when he had it? Do you really think they wouldn't have taken more precautions against him?

"We overestimated our abilities as sages and attempted to put an end to his evil magic."

[Fairy penguin]

Yeah, but do you really think they would have killed him off the same way if they knew he had the ToP? They tried to kill him off the same way they would kill off some wizzrobe.

[LexLionHart]

Yeah, but do you really think they would have killed him off the same way if they knew he had the ToP?

Would it have been careless to kill him off that way if they couldn't have known?

[Fairy penguin]

You really think that they thought "Hey, theres this really really low chance he had the sacred power of the Triforce bestowed on him by the goddesses." As you said, they underestimated him. So they didn't do that much thinking as to who the bearer of the ToP was.

[LexLionHart]

Or they just underestimated the Triforce of Power, and thought they would be able to kill him, but weren't.

[TZM]

they said somthing to the manner of 'but as if by some horrible joke' or somthing like that 'he had been blessed by the goddess as well' and the look they give is like 'oh crap, he ahs one too!"

[Fairy penguin]

What are we debating? I honestly forgot.

[TZM]

somthing to do with if he could ahve been killed the first time, if the sages were idiots, if link was an elf or not, and if link and zelda were bro and sis........ wait, nvm.


it was the difference between when link stabbed G-man, and when the sages stabbed him.

[Grimmyv]

In the child timeline Ganon does not have the ToP at the end of OoT because Aonuma says Link is talking to Zelda before he pulls the MS.  Link left Hyrule to look for Navi in MM and he was still a kid so he still had not pulled the MS and Ganon did not have the ToP.  Perhaps after Link got back to Hyrule he finished the Quest to get all the sacred stones and pulled the MS when he was big enough to use it.  By that time Zelda must have surely had a plan to deal with Ganon even if he did enter the SR and got the ToP despite Link being big enough to stop him at the Temple of Time/Light.  Or perhaps Ganon made his move when Link was away in Termina and found another way to get the ToP.  Or maybe Link waited to go into the SR and split the triforce until Ganon was being executed by the Sages. 

I just don't know.   

[Fairy penguin]

MAYBE anon found a magic glove that made his hand not seem evil and took the MS out and got the ToP, where the others went to Link and Zelda.

[Uber_Challenger]

I actually think that ALTTP is AFTER both LOZ and AOL. My reasoning for this is just pure speculation (besides the fact that SM stated that ALTTP is the last game in the timeline right after OOT was released, which gives further hinting), but it's a cool thought if I say so myself:

At the end of LOZ, Ganon is turned to ashes after a battle with Link. In AOL, Ganon's followers are trying to resurrect him by sprinkling Link's blood on the ashes of Ganon. I think that it's possible that at the end during the battle with Dark Link, Link could have gotten slashed by DL's sword, and some of his blood could have been spilled. After the battle, I think that one of Ganon's followers could have found Link's blood, sprinkled it on the ashes, and made Ganon come back more powerful than ever (I think that since ALTTP Ganon was the hardest Ganon by far for most people, he was also the most powerful in actuality).

This is just my opinion, though.