Sunrie Converts Fleamo To Republicanism

[Fleamo]

I am a Republican with more than enough facts to own your liberal whining *** if you want to go there. Chances are I'm not going to respond to crying, so don't even message me.

Go.

Sell me on being a Republican.  Prove to me that you have more than enough facts to own any given liberal whining ***.  I want you to go there.  

Why should I, or anyone else, be a Republican and not a Democrat?  Why is Republicanism inherently superior?


(Note that I am not right now arguing that Democratic ideals are better, merely that ideal sets cannot be 'owned' and are by nature equal.  But if we get into it, I will take that side.)

[JordAnime]

Because the drive-by media is after you!  Look out!

From what I gather from listening to right-wing conservative personalities, they feel that generally Democrats have to result to exploitation, bashing, and underhanded deals, which is of course stupid because there seems to be plenty of corruption in politics to go around.  I think that it's our differences that make us great and Republicans should actually thank Democrats for being around because without them, they'd have nothing to moan about, besides the drive-by media!  LOOK OUT!

[ShadowTiger]

Because the drive-by media is after you!  Look out!

From what I gather from listening to right-wing conservative personalities, they feel that generally Democrats have to result to exploitation, bashing, and underhanded deals, which is of course stupid because there seems to be plenty of corruption in politics to go around.  I think that it's our differences that make us great and Republicans should actually thank Democrats for being around because without them, they'd have nothing to moan about, besides the drive-by media!  LOOK OUT!

See the episode of American Dad last night for further details.  Aye, it's America.  We can fight about being left wing or right wing all we want, but in the end, you're just fighting for the same chances to serve the country as anyone else.


...


[/veeeeerrrrry general statement. @ @. ]

[Loki]

I have no idea where I stand, honestly, because I hate both the right and left wing. I guess I'm more in the middle, but with the generally accepted "worse" traits of both sides.

And then I have my own beliefs, such as we should be allowed to kill anyone that's just blatantly stupid. Like staring at five different candy cabinets at a movie theater, then asking me "Do you have this candy?" and when I say "No." you respond with "Ok then how much are the {something we do have}?"

Those people deserve to die.

[Sunrie]

The only thing I'm saying is that I sent in a request that this thread be locked as this is not the place for this.

[The Tao Of Bill]

I see nothing wrong with this topic...neither does Jordan apparently...And Fleamo certainly doesn't have issues with his own topic. If you don't like the topic don't post in it. Even though you did kinda get called out ;x

[Matt]

So wait, Sunrie posts this confrontational message (on a public place no less):

I am a Republican with more than enough facts to own your liberal whining *** if you want to go there. Chances are I'm not going to respond to crying, so don't even message me.

And then when actually called out, Sunrie refuses to respond, and goes around trying to get the administration to close the thread?

Oh, the beautiful, beautiful irony.

[Geneaux486]

Guys, I'm gonna go ahead and say this here, to, do not use the report feature on moderators.  Who looks at that?  Other mods.  How can other mods overrule other mods?  They can't.  PM a mod if you have a problem with him, or an admin.

[IntasDx]

Political parties are not my rule of life.  I'm a Republican, but I don't think the Republican Party is "all-good," nor do I think the Democrats are "all-evil."  My beliefs come before my alliance to a party, and I will(when I'm of age) vote accordingly.  Generally, I find Republicans believe what I believe are right.  But on the other hand, I am against the death penalty.

I guess I consider Republicans the lesser of the two evils, or the closest which fall in line with my Catholic beliefs.

[The Tao Of Bill]

Republicans do have a lot of good ideas and are generally good at handling the economy. I really don't consider the people in the white house to be very good republicans though. These republicans seem to only know how to fuck  up

[Fleamo]

I have to say first, the political ideology I admire the most is Libertarianism.  That's a comprehensive ideology.  They say "no government" and that's where they go with everything.  It's like anarchism, but sane.  

My ideal political party would be a Democratic party which was good on taxes.  I want an efficient government, with no unnecessary taxation, but at the same time I consider social security necessary.  I consider health care necessary.  Yes, taxes would be higher than a Libertarian-, or even theoretically a Republican-led government, but the money would be going back to the people in the form of public services.

[Adam]

When talking about political idealogies, I'd say it's pretty pointless, except in some extreme cases, to try to claim that any one is better or "more right" than any other.

Personally, I'm partial to economic conservatism and social liberalism, which means you could technically call me a libertarian.

I really don't consider the people in the white house to be very good republicans though.

Or at the very least, the current republicans in office are not very good conservatives.  Well, they've got the social conservatism down pat, to be fair, but they seem to have been straying from the economic conservatism.

So pretty much, I'm disagreeing with them on both fronts here.  But that's probably something for another topic.

[Cygnus]

Personally, I'm partial to economic conservatism and social liberalism, which means you could technically call me a libertarian.

That's why Arnold won in California, and that's what makes him a good Republican. On the other hand, you have George Bush's regime in office, who wastes billions of dollars every year in Iraq even though conservatives are supposed to be lowering taxes. You also have them wanting a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. I thought conservatives were for small government.

[The Tao Of Bill]

exactly my point...the so called republicans in office do not act like traditional republicans at all. And that is probably why our economy is in the ****ter. They lower taxes which is great but they raise spending cause of a war. How can you expect to not have a **** economy when you are spending an *** load of money and not getting enough back in return. We wonder why the imigration problem is getting worse...maybe it's because we are borrowing so much money that we are forced to borrow from poor countries like Mexico who should be using that money to help their own people find jobs.

[Sunrie]

al-Qaeda ("the base") also called al-Qaida ("the foundation") is an armed Sunni Islamist terror organization with the goal of eliminating western influence in Muslim countries and reinstating the Caliphate. al-Qaeda is predominately comprised of Wahhabists and Salafism, two extremist denominations of Islam. Osama bin-Laden is recognized as the terror faction's leader, but the Egyptian-born terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri has a very large influence over al-Qaeda's theology and practice. The terror group's operations are generally not centralized, with many independent and collaborative cells operating in many countries cooperating under a common cause to slaughter all Infidels and dominate the world with Islamic Fascism.

al-Qaeda has been linked to many acts of terrorism, murder and crimes against humanity and is known for carrying out the barbaric attacks against America on September 11th, 2001. In response to these heinous crimes, the United States of America has launched an ongoing series of legal, financial, and Military campaigns against the al-Qaeda terrorist organization, terrorist groups in their likeness and any nation willing to harbor or support these barbarians, dubbed the War on Terror.

Evolved from the Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK)- a Mujahideen organization fighting to establish an Islamic Fascist state in Afghanistan while trying to drive out the Soviet Occupation in the 1980s, Osama bin-Laden was one of the founders of MAK along with the Palestinian terrorist Abdullah Yusuf Azzam. The MAK channeled funds from several different sources including donations from across the Middle East to train Mujahideen terrorists from around the globe in guerilla warfare. During the late 1980s, the MAK was small in numbers and mainly existed to provide support such as housing, recruitment and financing other savage terrorists.

After the end of Soviet occupation in the 1989, Mohammed Najibullah's socialist Afghani government was toppled by the Mujahideen. With no unified structure, or plans for the future, the new Islamofascist leaders were unable to form a functioning, structured government, and a massive civil war ensued.

Due to U.S. aid to the Afghani Mujahideen, conspiracy theorists have speculated that we may have contributed to the creation of the terrorist organization of al-Qaeda as an unintentional product of Western interests. However, Peter Bergen, a CNN journalist who is known for having conducted the first television interview with Osama bin-Laden in 1997, shot down this theory on August 15, 2006 stating the following:

• The story about bin-Laden and the CIA -- that the CIA funded bin-Laden or trained bin-Laden -- is simply a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin-Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn't have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn't have needed to. Bin-Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. The real story here is the CIA didn't really have a clue about who this guy was until 1996 when they set up a unit to really start tracking him.

The United States started to become concerned with Osama bin-Laden in the early to mid-1990s following several savage terrorist attacks against American installations.

At the end of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, Osama bin-Laden and other various terror sects of the Mujahideen wished to expand their sadistic operations on a global scale. While Osama bin-Laden was pro-expansion, Abdullah Yusuf Azzam wanted to remained focused on local military campaigns. Azzam was later assassinated in 1989, which caused the MAK to split, with most of its barbaric members joining Osama bin-Laden's terrorist network.

Following the Soviet withdrawal, Osama bin-Laden returned home to Saudi Arabia. The Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990 struck fear into the heart of the Saudi government. Under the threat of internal dissent and the possibility of Iraq furthering their campaign into Saudi Arabia, Osama bin-Laden offered King Fahd the aid of his terrorist Mujahideen forces to protect the Saudis from Saddam Hussein's army.

The Saudi Monarch refused Osama bin-Laden's offer and instead opted for the United States of America and its Allied Forces to deploy against Iraq from Saudi territory. Osama bin-Laden considered this a treacherous deed, believing that the presence of Infidel forces in the holy land profaned its sacred soil. After seditiously speaking out against the Saudi royals in public about Western presence, Osama bin-Laden was exiled to Sudan and had his citizenship revoked forever. Shortly after, the terrorist organization we now know as al-Qaeda was officially formed and collaboration between al-Qaeda and Saddam Hussein began.


(this took too long to type and collect as far as I'm concerned...)

[F3]

That's really great and all, but I don't see what this has to do with the immediate topic at hand.

[Sunrie]

There is no immediate topic at hand that is obvious

[rkfs]

exactly my point...the so called republicans in office do not act like traditional republicans at all. And that is probably why our economy is in the ****ter. They lower taxes which is great but they raise spending cause of a war. How can you expect to not have a **** economy when you are spending an *** load of money and not getting enough back in return. We wonder why the imigration problem is getting worse...maybe it's because we are borrowing so much money that we are forced to borrow from poor countries like Mexico who should be using that money to help their own people find jobs.

Isn't Mexico in debt to the US? I don't really see how that could work. Hmm, how rich is Cuba? I bet we could easily take them out...

[The Tao Of Bill]

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html

Not according to the government

[ALcard]

Removed for flamebaiting/having no meaning what so ever.-Twilight Wolf