Did **** kill him?

[Twilight Hero]

Umm in the end of TP I just beat it and when Zant staps him neck and it happens to Ganondorf is this a result of them both still fused together? Also when Midna broke the mirror she did that to end the connection between to worlds, correct?

[Psy]

Yes, and yes.

[LexLionHart]

Actually, I would argue that Midna broke the mirror because she thought it was dangerous. She makes a comment about this at the end of the Temple of Time.

[Fierce Diety]

Yes, Zant is fused with Ganondorf in a way, and realises that Ganondorf betrayed him so he breaks his neck, killing Ganondorf in the process. Midna breaks the mirror as it is too risky for something like that to happen again, and she believes that 'light and shadow cannot mix'. She evidently loves Link but knows she must stay and rule her people whilst hylia needs Link...

[Master Hylia]

Well I agree with Josh, Zant realized we was just a puppet in Ganondorf's lust for power so he delivered the truly final blow by breaking his own neck killing Ganondorf and himself as well

[PsychoMe]

i was really confused about this. Zant is Ganon's puppet, not  the other way round, why did he have any power?!

[Fierce Diety]

Remember when Zant saw the firey face of ganondorf and thought he was a god? Well ganondorf entered Zant and used him, and this is how Zant got the powers, as he shared them with ganondorf as he was a part of him...

[Sly]

I thought the shot of Zant breaking his neck was just a metaphor for evil's demise or something, like that earlier cutscene with the Triforce on the hill and the three dark Links.

[Psy]

I thought the shot of Zant breaking his neck was just a metaphor for evil's demise or something, like that earlier cutscene with the Triforce on the hill and the three dark Links.

Then how would you explain Ganondorf's reaction and his cessation of breathing?

[JordAnime]

Then how would you explain Ganondorf's reaction and his cessation of breathing?

Cause he got run through by the master sword.

[Psy]

Cause he got run through by the master sword.

Obviously, yes, but I find it peculiar that it happened the moment Zant snapped his neck.

[JordAnime]

I think it was more of a "your life's flashing before your eyes" thing.

[Psy]

That's plausible. I just prefer to take the scene a little more literally.

[JordAnime]

Well I hope you didn't take the "Interlopers" scene literally before Lakebed temple.

[Psy]

Not in the least. I'm actually having to persuade other people not to do so.

[mdta]

Zant at the moment of Ganondorf's death, I feel is symbolic.  With Ganondorf Dieing, The Triforce leaves him, and Zant 'breaks' all ties between them, and so Ganondorf Dies Alone, which makes the choral lament fitting.

http://www.mdtauk.screaming.net/ganondorf-lament.mp3

[santuli]

I cant see Ganon as Zant's puppet. Ganondorf entered Zant's body, not the other way around. Zant was dead, but he said that as long as his master lived, he would be revived. But then again, Ganondorf had Twili magic, but that could have come from the sword that I have no idea where it came from.

Like Jord said, Ganon just got run through by the Master Sword. It went right through his chest IIRC. Its hard to breath or do anything with the a sword of evil's bane piercing your body.

I can see how Zant realized he was betrayed, but he could have done killed Ganondorf sooner if he was Zant's puppet.

When I watched the cutscene, I thought that Zant had died along with Ganondorf since they were connected. THe Master Sword killed Ganondorf, and with him, Zant. After all, like I said before, as long as his master lived, he would be revived.

[Psy]

But then again, Ganondorf had Twili magic, but that could have come from the sword that I have no idea where it came from.

It was the sword the sages attempted to execute him with.

And unless suicide is somehow different from being killed, I'm starting to see a big plothole with Zant killing Ganondorf. Because if Ganondorf was able to die because he was linked to Zant, he would've died when Midna killed Zant.

I'm at a loss now.

[santuli]

It was the sword the sages attempted to execute him with.

And unless suicide is somehow different from being killed, I'm starting to see a big plothole with Zant killing Ganondorf. Because if Ganondorf was able to die because he was linked to Zant, he would've died when Midna killed Zant.

I'm at a loss now.

oh ok, I was thinking of that, but wasnt sure.

Well, when Link fought Zant, Ganondorf wasnt in his body any longer, since he had raised the forcefield around the Castle by that time.

IMO, that only supports the idea that Zant is Ganondorf's puppet and not the other way around (or both) more.

Some things I jsut started thinking about. If the Triforce did leave him, he has to get it back befre TWW occurs, since in TWW he already had it.

If im not wrong, Ganondrof appeared in TWW after escaping his imprisonment, but in TP he actually died. If so, then he must be revived and then sealed away again before TWW...unless he never really did die in TP.

I can already see Ganondorf actually being saved by Zant, somehow, and being in the Twilight, giving Midna a reason to destroy the Mirror...but that makes little sense. Still, the way Ganondorf died was peculiar. He was left kneeling on the floor.

[Psy]

Wasn't even kneeling actually. He was still standing.

I wouldn't be so quick to say he died, either. Just because the Triforce mark faded doesn't mean he lost it. Link's mark faded (however, it's debatable as to whether he even had the Triforce of Courage) when he was in wolf form. It even puts emphasis on it when he first transforms.

I don't have a problem with attempting to figure out this game, but I'm not sticking to any certain decision. Not as of right now, at least.