Stop complaining about the Wii. (The calm version)

[Emcnelis]

Ok. I'm making the same topic with less anger since my old 1's now locked.

Alright! This is going around now! You all know in the British papers that some people are complaining about getting injuries after playing the Wii and getting the so-called "Wii Elbow"! This sorta annoys me. The reason why people get these injuries like aches, pains and numbness is because they are doing it to the extreme too much. I'm just saying.

And I don't want people blaming Nintendo for all of this. They're try to make gaming better and more fun for people and just a few people have problems with it. Can't you simply just move your forearm to control the game instead of using your whole arm? Is that easy.

It just annoys me when Ninty get these problems that could affect the industry. I just want Nintendo to become popular for a change. And the Wii to be a huge success. That's all. I'm sorry for my outburst on my last topic. Please understand.

[The Tao Of Bill]

much better thanks for understanding

[Sigil]

The Wii doesn't require you to run around your room and flail your arms around. I know a few people that are ill-informed on the subject and use this as a prime reason they don't want a Wii.


People breaking televisions and windows also have to realize it was their own fault for breaking said items. Using such extreme force with sweaty hands isn't something you should do while playing with the Wii.

(Darn, I was hoping I could find one more Penny Arcade comic about these issues. )

[Carl Jr.]

ya do u flil ur arms abot?

(had to get that out.)

 honestly, I'm dissapointed. If I'm using a wiimote, I can honestly tell you I'll be wanting to use it like a weapon while fighting some invisible foe in my room, but somehow, I'm gonna end up sitting down one way or another. It amazes me that people can be waving it around that long standing up.

[Scott Shelby]

Nintendo deserves every bit of criticism they're getting for this. It was nintendo's own choice to base a system based on a gimmicky motion sensing controller. As a company they are responsible for all the applications of the controller, as they must accept both the positive and negative aspects of controller. As any true gamer realizes, you can't just ramble on about a company's positives without accepting the negatives. And let's not forget Nintendo's stupid tv ads. They portray all the actors as flailing their arms around and waving the controller all over the place. nintendo expected their fans to NOT emulate those actions? I think not. In all honesty I believe Nintendo would take responsibility for these mishaps. The only ones who are defending them are the loyalist fans. As stated earlier, we can't just go around praising nintendo at every juncture and act as if they're perfect. They're not- not even close, and they deserve all the blame they will get.

[Geneaux486]

Wow, that's so not something a fanboy would say.  Look, Axle, they're talking about people who flail their arms around to the point where the wiimote shoots from thier hands and breaks things.  Not even the actors in the TV commercials flail about that much.  It's not Nintendo that deserves the criticism here, it's the morons that hurl thier controllers at thier windows and TV screens.  I would have never openly pegged you as one of those "McDonalds deserves to be sued because that lady poured thier hot coffee on herself" kinds of people, but honestly I'm not suprised.  If it were happening with the PS3 controllers, you'd be singing a completely different tune, but the end part would still be the same, with the "Blah blah loyalist Nintedo fans" the "blah blah" of course being "The only people who are criticising Sony for this" as opposed to your classic "the only people defending Nintendo".  We're all responsible for breaking our own damn things.  These people simply fail at Wiimote.

[Loki]

Nintendo deserves every bit of criticism they're getting for this. It was nintendo's own choice to base a system based on a gimmicky motion sensing controller. As a company they are responsible for all the applications of the controller, as they must accept both the positive and negative aspects of controller. As any true gamer realizes, you can't just ramble on about a company's positives without accepting the negatives. And let's not forget Nintendo's stupid tv ads. They portray all the actors as flailing their arms around and waving the controller all over the place. nintendo expected their fans to NOT emulate those actions? I think not. In all honesty I believe Nintendo would take responsibility for these mishaps. The only ones who are defending them are the loyalist fans. As stated earlier, we can't just go around praising nintendo at every juncture and act as if they're perfect. They're not- not even close, and they deserve all the blame they will get.

Honestly, UM, I'd go against you and suggest that the only ones flailing their arms about like seizure patients while playing the system are the Nintendo loyalists who think that the system is most fun when making extreme motions, while more casual gamers and people who are hooked onto the so-called gimick are going to move their arms casually, because they realize that it still works just as well, if not better considering that you don't end up throwing your Wiimote out the window or into your television set.

[JordAnime]

Loki, just because Uchiha Madara's opinion is different than yours and may be offensive to Nintendo fans doesn't mean that you can flame him.  I don't believe Uchiha has said anything that would seriously offend or, at this point, be considered trolling.  He's simply stating his opinion.  Your preemptive strike is not necessary and is unruly.  Trolling is an offense, but that doesn't give you the right to attack the troller, let a mod handle it.

Uchiha, if someone calls you out on your opinion, or if you troll, don't expect the mods to make it better for you.  

If I see another violation I'll hand out warnings, if one party is the culprit, so be it, if you both do it, then you'll both get one.  Am I clear?

[Adam]

Nintendo deserves every bit of criticism they're getting for this. It was nintendo's own choice to base a system based on a gimmicky motion sensing controller. As a company they are responsible for all the applications of the controller, as they must accept both the positive and negative aspects of controller. As any true gamer realizes, you can't just ramble on about a company's positives without accepting the negatives. And let's not forget Nintendo's stupid tv ads. They portray all the actors as flailing their arms around and waving the controller all over the place. nintendo expected their fans to NOT emulate those actions? I think not. In all honesty I believe Nintendo would take responsibility for these mishaps. The only ones who are defending them are the loyalist fans. As stated earlier, we can't just go around praising nintendo at every juncture and act as if they're perfect. They're not- not even close, and they deserve all the blame they will get.

While I agree with you on the bolded, I'd have to disagree with the idea that Nintendo needs to take full blame for these people's actions.  If you want to say that Nintendo needs to be held "responsible for all the applications of the controller," then this logic has to be applied to all goods produced by all companies.  And if we allow that, then we'll have people complaining to Nike when they pull muscles after using their running shoes, or blaming Wilson when they take a football to the face and break their nose, or, hell, even pointing the finger at McDonald's after they spill hot coffee on their own damn self.  So if we accept that my extrapolation is accurate, and that the end results are ridiculous enough to be considered "wrong," then I've just logically disproved your  statement.

Unless you want to argue that I didn't interpret it right.  Or if you've got anything particularly insightful to say.

Edit: I will hand it to you, though; most of those Wii adds were pretty damn stupid.

[JordAnime]

Edit: I will hand it to you, though; most of those Wii adds were pretty damn stupid.

I like them, they get the point across for the most part, and the Red Steel one reminds me of the old days of gaming commercials.  And plus, they don't make you want to take a cold shower like the PS3 ones do.

[Geneaux486]

Great IM, Uchiha, hilarious read, but don't count your chickens, especially since no back-and-forth actually took place.  Sure, I posted earlier, but I removed it because I felt it was too hostile, and since I didn't have time to type out a new response then, I'm gonna go ahead and do that now.

I haven't read up on the personal injury stories yet, so right now I'm just gonna weigh in on the property damage ones.  The idea that Nintendo needs to take on any of the blame for a small group of over-active (and in some cases intoxicated) gamers breaking thier own property due to ridiculously superfluous movements of the Wiimote that are not required on any level for any of the games out right now is ridicuous.  That's like saying McDonalds deserved to be sued because that lady spilled hot coffee on herself.  Nintendo did not force these people to do anything.  As far as the ads go, even they don't promote movement so great that letting go of the remote would result in the wrist strap breaking.  That aside, if adults are that impressionable, they should be supervised when they use this thing.  This is not Nintendo's blunder, this is the blunder of a few individual gamers.  The Wiimote is easy to hold on to and the wrist strap doesn't break easily.  I know both of these to be true from personal experience.  Is the Wii perfect?  No, but as of right now only in the sense that nothing's perfect, but the Wii is damn close.
And Uchiha, I still stand by my belief that if this were a Sony-related mishap with thier tilt sensors, you'd be singing a completely different tune.

[K-64]

They portray all the actors as flailing their arms around and waving the controller all over the place

In the ads, weren't the rooms quite open planned, with plenty of space to flail your arms around?

[Witless]

They portray all the actors as flailing their arms around and waving the controller all over the place. nintendo expected their fans to NOT emulate those actions?

Not at 50Mph.

The only 'slight' problems with the Wii is the Sensor bar, which has a 10 feet wire, which isn't long enough for people with gigantic living rooms and the fact that the power radius is also 10 feet, which makes it's almost impossible to Wii for people who sit over 10 feet away from their TVs.

[Mongooseman]

When I play Zelda, I barely move at all; I could play for eight hours straight (actually did) without feeling the least bit fatigued. However, when I play Wii Sports, I stand up and actually mimic tennis, bowling, golf, et cetera stances to get the full experience. At the same time, I don't flail around mindlessly in boxing, nor do I sling my hand forward at 90 mph while pitching in baseball. So far I'm without incident.

I did notice that my brother-in-law and dad used greatly exaggerated motions at first. My dad used to do karate and boxing, so when he played Wii Boxing, he acted as though it was the real thing, which frightened me in a cramped bedroom full of fragile items. After I explained that such quick and powerful gestures were unnecessary, he proceeded more calmly, so there has yet to be any harm done.

I think that the problem with most is that they just don't use common sense. While it's true that the Wii gives the general impression that you're supposed to play with wide motions, it doesn't take much intelligence for someone to know that they should clear the area while they play and grip the Wiimote fairly tight.

[JordAnime]

In otherwords, don't play the Wii like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OMCwwTjvuM&eurl=

[Assault on Mind]

Uchiha it seemed like your were angry when you posted... Anyways bring minutes of experience into play that and a logical brain. I've played the Wii although I've realized that it would be sooooo much better with a 20' flat screen T.V. you don't need to wave your arms you may think it is a work out and that it is more fun you don't. Your just asking for trouble when you do that.