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Offline Skylarkff

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« on: March 29, 2008 »

Now this timeline probbaly has holes, as they all do. I am also replaying all the games in this order to make sure I did not miss anything, or to find the holes and fix them. Constructive critisism is wanted.

                  [WW - PH] - [Loz - Aol]
                /
MC - [OoT
                \
                 [MM] - [TP] - [FS -FSA]- [ALttP - OoX - LA]


MC as first.
Pros:
-Ganondorf is not around yet.
-Vaati sealed in Four Sword and pretty much forgotten.
-chest of monsters opened.
-Hyrule is really really tiny.
Cons:
-Citizens refered to as humans not hylains
-book mentions Triumpth Forks (probbaly not spelled right, and NOT confirmed on my playthrough)
- Islands can be see from Sky Palace ( I just think it is over an ocean, not THE great sea.)
- WW style Goron merchants and no Zora.
LoZ after TWW
pros:
-Hyrule seems very forested and underdeveloped.
-no MS
Cons:
- AoL backstory practically ignored.

Questions? comments?
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Offline Fairy penguin

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« #1 on: March 31, 2008 »

One. How the hell did the ocean that covers the entire planet just disapear? Trees give back their water. Gods have no reason to get rid of it, since the fish would have to disapear, and people don't know how to farm (why would they when farms are big and the islands are small? Also, from TWW, it doens't look like there are very many animals, and the ones you do see are treated like pets).

I'm sorry if I sound mean, its just that I hate seeing people having games after PH. I just don't think its possible.

And one other thing- did the sky peoples every de-populate?
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Offline Technosis

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« #2 on: March 31, 2008 »

Not to take the easy road but, why can't it be a new place. LoZ and OoT maps are not that similar.
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Offline Fairy penguin

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« #3 on: April 01, 2008 »

Geography isn't that important. It changes every time, but when the planet gets flooded so nothing but little islands are left, I'm getting skeptical.
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Offline Skylarkff

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« #4 on: April 01, 2008 »

I orginally disliked games after PH as well. However I think that there are practically no towns or people in LoZ and that there is no Master sword helps place it there.  I couldn't think of anywhere in the child line that it would make sense that Ganon was alive without fanficing.  I would put them in the Child line if I could defend it somehow, but I can't. 

People learn how to farm. No one is born knowing such things. 

When I wrote this I thought the sky palace and the Oocoo place in TP were practically the same. I just forgot to take it out when I posted it here.
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Offline Fairy penguin

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« #5 on: April 03, 2008 »

Tell me how the world just unfloods. Everyone is established there and has no need of a big continent. Also, I believe its impossible that everyone would somehow know to call everything what it was thousands of years ago. And you know there can just be a lot of Ganons? Lots of Links and Zeldas, so why not Ganon?
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Offline Skylarkff

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« #6 on: April 04, 2008 »

Well, I have kind of given up on this timeline. I spent awhile reading a  bunch of theories and I'll probbaly completely redoing it or something.   Ganon doesn't really have an explanation on why there would be more than one of him.  Link and Zelda usually have some kind of bloodline connection relating to the past ones. Ganon typically gets sealed or ressurected.  Thats why I see Ganon as being Ganondorf reincarnated because of the ToP. In FSA wasn't he considered a "demon reborn" or something? 

Anyways. I'm trashing this one. Still trying to get the hang or of making timelines, hey I got to start somewhere right? Whenever I can think of a new one I'll post it here. Just I didn't know where to place LoZ/Aol and I figured The MS was lost after WW so it would make some sense that it wasn't around. 

I kind of find it funny that here it gets rejected for having LoZ after WW, while at ZU no one liked it because of TMC at the begining instead of after WW 
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Offline Grimmyv

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« #7 on: April 05, 2008 »

Yeah, there's never been a consensus whether it's possible to un-flood Hyrule or not.  But anything is possible, right?  Actually, we're all just tired of speculation and we want to see something concrete in the games that links them together.

I did have a timeline once that put LoZ/AoL before OoT and NO ONE seemed to like that...even though there's no evidence that Ganon in LoZ was ever called Ganondorf or that he was Gerudo.  Also, even though it's implied that the triforce has been in the SR since creation it's still possible that the TF was in Hyrule before the temple of time was built.

And no one wanted to hear that.  oh well.
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Offline Fairy penguin

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« #8 on: April 06, 2008 »

Whats wrong with stuff coming before OoT? I like to put all 2D games before it (not that I have a timeline yet, working on it).
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Offline Skylarkff

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« #9 on: April 06, 2008 »

I don't have anything against pre OoT games. Just I can;t explain how the triforce gets in the SR before OoT. I read a theory on ZU recently that was quite interesting that had the idea (it was quickly shot down there though).  The guy believed that ganondorf was the reincarnation of ganon. Which he actually has evidence to support it. 

http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/zelda-theorizing/75423-cukeman-s-timeline-theory.html

I think now I'm leaning towards a
............./ WW- PH
MC-OoT
............\ MM- TP- Loz-AoL - FS-FSA- ALttP-OOX-LA

It seems that over at ZU they think just about everything comes after WW.. doesn't make much sense if you ask me.

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Offline Fairy penguin

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« #10 on: April 07, 2008 »

No it doesn't. But that seems like a diehard Zelda site, so that might explain why they cling to thinking most of Zelda is in a "New Hyrule".
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Offline Skylarkff

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« #11 on: April 07, 2008 »

They think MC and FSA takes place on an island.  Also alot of their ideas are from geography which I just can't stand to use as evidence.  Other than the random post-WW timelines they have, most seem to know what they are talking about.
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Offline Fairy penguin

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« #12 on: April 08, 2008 »

FSA and TMC DO look they're on islands, actually. Not that I care, because as you said, geography shouldn't be used as evidence. References, yeah, evidence, no.
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Offline JonathanSpenc

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« #13 on: April 23, 2008 »


                  [WW - PH] - [Loz - Aol]
                /
MC - [OoT
                \
                 [MM] - [TP] - [FS -FSA]- [ALttP - OoX - LA]

Okay, dude first don't post two games as one block. Also I just realized that LoZ and AoL HAVE to be in the child timeline somewhere because as the King of Hyrule said "When the Hero of Time traveled back to his time, he was seperated from the elements that made him a hero" meaning that in both timelines child AND adult, the Triforce split into eight pieces. In the adult timeline, TWW deals with this problem in the child timeline, LoZ deals with this problem. So yeah WW and LoZ in the same timeline makes no sense.

And how can FSA be after TP, where in FSA Ganon is alive, and in TP he's already dead?
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Offline Ezlo's Apprentice

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« #14 on: April 23, 2008 »

Okay, dude first don't post two games as one block.

Who says? Seems to me like a good way of identifying the different Links and each game they take part in.

Also I just realized that LoZ and AoL HAVE to be in the child timeline somewhere because as the King of Hyrule said "When the Hero of Time traveled back to his time, he was seperated from the elements that made him a hero" meaning that in both timelines child AND adult, the Triforce split into eight pieces. In the adult timeline, TWW deals with this problem in the child timeline, LoZ deals with this problem. So yeah WW and LoZ in the same timeline makes no sense.

From what I recall- and it's getting late so recalling is rather tricky- the reasons for the Triforce (of Courage) being split in AoL is something along the lines of its own protection. Different to the reasons for the split in TWW.

And how can FSA be after TP, where in FSA Ganon is alive, and in TP he's already dead?

FSA = New Ganon origins.
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Offline JonathanSpenc

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« #15 on: April 23, 2008 »


Who says? Seems to me like a good way of identifying the different Links and each game they take part in.

From what I recall- and it's getting late so recalling is rather tricky- the reasons for the Triforce (of Courage) being split in AoL is something along the lines of its own protection. Different to the reasons for the split in TWW.

FSA = New Ganon origins.

Yeah, I guess that's true.

Oh yeah, it was the triforce of courage that split, the same TriForce that was indroduced in AoL. So maybe yeah after AoL's events the ToC did split into eight. But that would mean that it split into eight, just as the TriForce of Wisdom did, I actually had the two mixed up. So the Courage Tri was split in TWW, because Link lost in when he traveld through time. But why the hell was the Wisdom Triforce split in the first game? There's no explanation for that. And also why didn't Power Triforce ever split?
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Offline Skylarkff

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« #16 on: April 23, 2008 »


Yeah, I guess that's true.

Oh yeah, it was the triforce of courage that split, the same TriForce that was indroduced in AoL. So maybe yeah after AoL's events the ToC did split into eight. But that would mean that it split into eight, just as the TriForce of Wisdom did, I actually had the two mixed up. So the Courage Tri was split in TWW, because Link lost in when he traveld through time. But why the hell was the Wisdom Triforce split in the first game? There's no explanation for that. And also why didn't Power Triforce ever split?

Zelda split it up to keep ganon from getting it.

But I kinda did that timeline without thinking. Not really for it anymore.
im thinking loz and aol at the very end of the child line now. with the Aol backstory happening ethier after TP or Alttp.
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« #17 on: August 23, 2008 »

you saw lancuns video on youtube. i totally agree with this.
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