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Offline Witless

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« on: July 14, 2008 »

''Square Enix head honcho Yoichi Wada took the stage to announce Final Fantasy XIII for the Xbox 360. ''

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Oh my god, this has got to be a huge kick in the balls for Sony. And just when I was about to actually get a PS3...



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Offline Scott Shelby

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« #1 on: July 14, 2008 »

I'll copy what I wrote in the other thread.

Cool. Now more people can play the game, and experience its awesomeness. I'm wondering whether or not each version will have exclusive content. That will be the kicker, seeing as how I have to choose between the two systems.

What Jordan and I were discussing:
I wonder how much money Microsoft threw at Sony to get FF XIII, and I wonder if Sony is going to have any tricks up its sleeve--besides, it won't really effect Japanese sales, just Western sales.
Well, I assume they threw money at Square, not Sony. I'm sure Sony has known about negotiations, and failed to match Microsoft's offer in order to make the game an exclusive. And I agree with the bolded. The 360 still hasn't broken through in Japan, and it's starting to look like it never will. Losing an exclusive is never good for a company, only for gamers. However, this was probably the least harmful AAA exclusive for them to give up. Besides, they still have FF vs XIII, so not all is lost on the FF front. And I'm sure that Sony has tricks up its sleeve. Their press conference is last, and I'm assuming they have something big (possibly KHIII, or something equally huge). Now if they would only remake FF7. :D

So overall, it's probably only going to affect Western sales. Japan is where FF games really thrive, and the Sony bias there protects them.

Seeing as Sony is last in terms of press conferences, I assume they'll have something up their sleeves to counter. It should be interesting to watch. Also, why is this not in the 360 section? The title says it all.
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Offline Witless

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« #2 on: July 14, 2008 »

Also, why is this not in the 360 section? The title says it all.
Because it also effects Sony.

However, this was probably the least harmful AAA exclusive for them to give up. Besides, they still have FF vs XIII, so not all is lost on the FF front. And I'm sure that Sony has tricks up its sleeve. Their press conference is last, and I'm assuming they have something big (possibly KHIII, or something equally huge). Now if they would only remake FF7. :D

I don't know about that. Versus and KH3 fall under Square Enix as well so it can be assumed that Versus and KH3 ( if there is going to be one ) will also be cross-platform.

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Offline JordAnime

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« #3 on: July 14, 2008 »

Kaz Hirai takes the stage, smiles, blinks, then walks off stage, then the conference ends.

That'd be a surprise, to say the least.
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Offline Scott Shelby

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« #4 on: July 14, 2008 »

I wouldn't bank on that. It happened already, remember. Sony's E3 Press Conference in 2006

But seriously, I'm thinking that their big announcement will be KHIII, but we'll se tomorrow.
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Offline Witless

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« #5 on: July 14, 2008 »

If Versus was going to be Multiplatform, why wouldn't they have announced it? As it stands right now, it's exclusive, and I'm pretty confident it will stay that way. And that logic is nonsense.  Just because a game company makes one of their games multiplatform, doesn't mean they're all going to be. That's one of the most baffling bits of logic I've ever heard.
It's completely plausible. Seriously, why wouldn't they?
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Offline Witless

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« #6 on: July 14, 2008 »

Konami could make more money if they had ported MGS4. Why didn't they? Epic games could have made more money if they had made Gears multiplatform. Why didn't they?

Haha, what are you trying to say? That they're doing it out of pride and loyalty? XD
Seriously, Konami was probably binded by a contract they have with Sony and the fact that the 3 hours of cutscenes wasn't really doable on dual-layers. Epic games probably have their reasons as well, probably familiarity reason.

Final Fantasy is a brand name that holds some solid RPGs that they released on Sony's platform. For Square to cross-platform an exclusive game like FF means that their contract with Sony is expired for that platform, and that they are open to negotiate. Of course, this doesn't mean that other spin-offs under FF will also be cross-platform, but it definitely is plausible and likely, unless they have different arrangements when it comes to those.

I'm sorry, but the logic of "every exclusive on the PS3 is going multiplatform" is just wishful thinking on the part of Sony haters and fanboys.
I never said that, sorry.

In order to secure this title, Microsoft has been in constant negotiations with Square-Enix. I highly doubt that they didn't discuss Vs. XIII during negotiations. They obviously have failed to pull it away from Sony. Likewise, they may not want to throw millions of dollars MORE at Square-Enix for the rights to have an unproven game series-spinoff.
I'm sure. But that just means that they have different contracts for said game and/or Microsoft didn't want them.


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Offline JordAnime

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« #7 on: July 14, 2008 »

Haha, what are you trying to say? That they're doing it out of pride and loyalty? XD
Seriously, Konami was probably binded by a contract they have with Sony and the fact that the 3 hours of cutscenes wasn't really doable on dual-layers. Epic games probably have their reasons as well, probably familiarity reason.

Sometimes it makes more sense to release a product on one platform rather than two.  Development studios only ave so much money and publishers are only willing to put out so much, there comes a point where investment may outweigh return(which is why FFXIII isn't coming out for the 360 in Japan, as it stands). 

In the case of Gears of War, Microsoft bankrolled the project.  Bioshock only was announced for PS3 after the PS3 started to garner more marketshare.  Sometimes, in business, there are loyalties.  Square didn't develop for N64 not because the system didn't offer them any market, but because Nintendo's upper management pissed Square off. 
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Offline Scott Shelby

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« #8 on: July 14, 2008 »

I decided to delete my posts. I was getting too hostile and was derailing the topic. I apologize to the members of the community. Not that it's an adequate excuse, but I'm only human. On with the discussion folks.
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Offline Shin Illuminated

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« #9 on: July 15, 2008 »

I'm sorry. I fail to see hoe FFXIII going multi-platform automatically spells doom for Sony or PS3.

And don't anyone say "because of the console price", because that's just a weak fanboyish argument.

Provide me with some concrete statistics and I will be more satisfied. I wanna see strengths, weaknesses and maybe even a pie chart (not totally necessary, but it would be fun).
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Offline JordAnime

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« #10 on: July 15, 2008 »

One of the main reasons I'd get a PS3 over a 360 was Final Fantasy XIII, but it's certainly not the only reason--after all, if I ever get that 1080p HDTV I pitty the fools stuck playing the 780p version.  In all seriousness, there's still a lot of unique stuff coming out for PS3, it just seems like most of it isn't exclusive anymore. 
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Offline FDLink

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« #11 on: July 15, 2008 »

Well, the move to 360 kinda pisses me off, but only as a knee-jerk reaction, me being a PS3 owner and all. But  I guess as long as PS3 owners are still getting it, it doesn't really matter in the long run. Besides, one can imagine that Square is much more familiar with PS3 hardware and therefore we can only assume that PS3 owners will be getting a more definitive version.

Hell, I believe that Hideo Kojima of Konami said that Metal Gear Solid 4 as-is just wouldn't have been possible on 360, so we'll have to see if Square has any issues trying to make the 360 version of FFXIII as good as the PS3 version.
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Offline Shin Illuminated

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« #12 on: July 15, 2008 »

I don't know. I figured people would be on either side of the fence by now.

So i have a question for those who have both ( I know they're out there): what system would you get it for?
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Offline FDLink

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« #13 on: July 16, 2008 »

Holy shit, I just had to post this. I couldn't resist.

A tired old gamer expresses his feelings on FFXIII for 360.
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« #14 on: July 16, 2008 »

Quote from: FDLink
Holy shit, I just had to post this. I couldn't resist.

A tired old gamer expresses his feelings on FFXIII for 360.

Now that Square-Enix has violated my trust, and this bond, it’s not going to be the same this time.

I hate to say it but it looks like I am going to have to forge a life of my own now, without Final Fantasy guiding me along. But right now all I feel like I can do is cry.

That's taking it a bit too far.

But I empathize with him. I really do.

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« #15 on: July 16, 2008 »

Wow.. blowing it a bit out of proportion.
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Offline Be_yourself

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« #16 on: July 16, 2008 »

hmmm...i may actually get this if its on 360...see what all the hype is about...
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Offline The Tao Of Bill

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« #17 on: July 16, 2008 »

I still don't see what's so great about final fantasy. Any modern game where you can get through the entire thing by using the direction pad and one button is kinda lame...
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Offline Witless

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« #18 on: July 16, 2008 »

Well, the move to 360 kinda pisses me off, but only as a knee-jerk reaction, me being a PS3 owner and all. But  I guess as long as PS3 owners are still getting it, it doesn't really matter in the long run. Besides, one can imagine that Square is much more familiar with PS3 hardware and therefore we can only assume that PS3 owners will be getting a more definitive version.

I believe that the Japanese PS3 version will be launched first, then localised and then ported to Xbox360.
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Offline Fairy penguin

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« #19 on: July 17, 2008 »

I still don't see what's so great about final fantasy. Any modern game where you can get through the entire thing by using the direction pad and one button is kinda lame...

Because its a lot of strategy as opposed to other games. And theres also the great stories usually involved in the games (except VII, that was just stupid).

I'd still get the PS3 because its getting Versus, which is the part of XIII I really want. Plus its probably getting KHIII, and Tales of Vesperia is coming to it. ANd then theres the part of me not liking the 360 much.
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