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Offline Uber_Challenger

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« #20 on: December 11, 2008 »

Maybe it's his ghost or something, haha! 8)
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Offline Hyruleansoldier

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« #21 on: December 11, 2008 »

Maybe it's his ghost or something, haha! 8)

Don't joke --- Fado and Laruto were able to play music whilst in ghost form...
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Offline Be_yourself

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« #22 on: December 11, 2008 »

ZOMG you're right!  I never realized.....


Lol @ fighting Majora with bombs.  I prefer arrows until you can get close enough to jumpslash.

Twas out, of EVERYTHING! the bomb mask was my only hope...
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Offline Hyruleansoldier

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« #23 on: December 11, 2008 »

You know you can just walk up to Majora's Wrath while holding out your shield, right?  It blocks the whip.  Only the spinners might still give you problems, but I've managed it without too much setbacks.
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Offline Be_yourself

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« #24 on: December 12, 2008 »

You know you can just walk up to Majora's Wrath while holding out your shield, right?  It blocks the whip.  Only the spinners might still give you problems, but I've managed it without too much setbacks.

i'm not to clear on the details it was a while ago(in that seemingly endless year before TP was released) but i think i did that, but using the bomb mask stunned him hence giving me more time to attack him...
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Offline mikecamper

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« #25 on: December 12, 2008 »

You know you can just walk up to Majora's Wrath while holding out your shield, right?  It blocks the whip.  Only the spinners might still give you problems, but I've managed it without too much setbacks.


Really?   When I played it the other day and I was doing that battle, I observed that ...  yes, a simple shield block will protect you from his routine whips, but  the attack in which the whip wraps around you and throws you against the wall  got me even with my shield out.  I failed to find any way to protect myself from that move. 

And what frusturated me about it is that I was trying a three heart challenge for the first time.  I never did beat him with the three hearts only because of said whip attack.  I finally had to give up.   

I dunno..  any suggestions?
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Offline Hyruleansoldier

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« #26 on: December 12, 2008 »

Just use the shield and hit her until the spinners come and she starts doing the whip twist - use your arrows for that.  You should have enough...
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Offline mikecamper

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« #27 on: December 12, 2008 »

Just use the shield and hit her until the spinners come and she starts doing the whip twist - use your arrows for that.  You should have enough...

Thanks.   Probably be several days before I'll be able to tackle it again, but I'll get back with you with either a success story or a request for further help (lol.)

Hopefully I can succeed, for Majora is the only 3-D zelda game in which I have yet to complete a 3-heart run.    Tough stuff!
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Offline Hyruleansoldier

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« #28 on: December 12, 2008 »

You know you can just practice the Majora battle with a completed MM file and go straight to the night of the final day for the battle.  Perfect practice ^^
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Offline mikecamper

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« #29 on: December 12, 2008 »

You know you can just practice the Majora battle with a completed MM file and go straight to the night of the final day for the battle.  Perfect practice ^^

True that.   

Nonetheless,  it'll probably still be awhile before I can turn the game back on.
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Offline Uber_Challenger

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« #30 on: February 05, 2009 »

You know, usually when I get too close to Majora he kicks me away. Do you just have to slash really fast or something before he kicks you when you get close?

Oh, and mikecamper, don't give up. It took me dozens of tries to beat Majora on the 3 heart challenge (I think I counted 40 attempts before I beat him!!!). Just keep plugging away and you'll get it.
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Offline Hyruleansoldier

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« #31 on: February 05, 2009 »

If you use your shield when he/she slashes the whips, you should be fine -- you have to start slashing as soon as you get near enough, usually that's right before his/her attacks.  If you have arrows then that's the best way to go, so she'll still be stunned while you get there.
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Offline Hyruleansoldier

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« #32 on: August 19, 2011 »

Okay, so I just beat Majora's Mask again, this time without obtaining any optional masks (which most of them are) or helping anyone from the Bomber's Notebook.

I had heard some speculation about little additions to the ending depending on certain masks you obtain during the game, but specific data were nowhere to be found.  So I just beat the game with only the Gibdo Mask, Garo's Mask, Captain's Hat and Giant Mask (the only non-character masks you need to beat the game), and to my surprise there are 9 mask-related mini segments of the ending (that you either get to see or don't depending on whether you obtained the mask or not).

During the staff credits it will then just shows a black background with the mask in question rotating in the bottom right corner - urging you to return to those sidequests to actually watch all those extra scenes.

I list for you all masks which affect the ending (in order of appearance, of course), and what part of the ending you miss out on if you don't have the mask in question:

1) Postman's Hat : The postman runs across Termina Field back to town

2) Kamaro's Mask : The Rosa sisters perform the dance at the Carnival (in the Milk Bar)

3) Great Fairy Mask : You see the 5 Great Fairies hover in line and cast their colorful magic things

4) Romani's Mask : You see Romani shooting 3 ghost-shaped balloons in a row with her bow

5) Blast Mask : You see the bomb shop owner and his mom side to side in front of the shop

6) Bunny Hood : You see Grog in the Cucco shack surrounded by all of his (grown-up) cuccos

7) Circus Leader's Mask : You see Gorman being his drunk self in the Milk Bar, looking around at the other people

8] Bremen Mask : You see the guy with his (Song of Storms themed) music box in the Milk Bar (a lot of characters are also in this sequence)

After this you see the scene where Pamela runs towards her father and he picks her up (close to their house).  This scene you will get no matter what, although if there WAS a way to beat the game without the Gibdo Mask, I’m pretty sure this would be optional too (since then her dad would still be a half-Gibdo).  At any rate, you get this scene before the Anju & Kafei’s Wedding (or just see the Couple’s Mask if you didn’t complete the sidequest).

9) Couple's Mask : You see Anju's wedding in Termina Field, with all her friends and relatives present

I should also point out that all these scenes occur right after each other, some flowing over into others, so for example with regard to the sequence in the Milk Bar you will of course see several more characters than just the ones immediately pertaining to certain masks, but if you don't have one of these masks the entire sequence is not shown.  Makes getting everything all the more rewarding!

So yeah, I was oddly pleased about finding all of this out.  I'm a perfectionist so usually by the time I beat the final boss I'll have obtained almost everything in the game, so I would never have ended up seeing this "minimal" ending.  Interesting stuff!

Since I'm replaying MM I've decided to do it (almost) twice so I can create a file where I don't get these 9 Masks, to be able to save it on my GC memory card, so I can go see the minimal ending on the GC Collector's Edition.  That way I can free up that save file on my N64 to replay the game without having to worry about it freezing.

This time I'll be getting everything except these 9 Masks, and I thought I should write about the implications of not having access to these, as some sidequests depend on them.  Here's the list:

1) Postman's Hat : Not having the Postman deliver the letter to Madame Aroma means he can't flee, so no Postman's Hat, meaning one less Heart Piece.

2) Kamaro's Mask : Not teaching the Rosa sisters the dance to perform at the Carnival means one less Heart Piece.

3) Great Fairy Mask : Not talking to ANY Great Fairy (after getting Magic Power) means not getting any of the 4 upgrades.  Major bummer!

4) Romani's Mask : You could do the carriage sidequests, but you'd have to let the Gorman Brothers win, by letting them destroy the milk bottles so Cremia can't deliver to the Milk Bar.  No Romani's Mask means you don't get to go into the Milk Bar - although you can STILL do the sidequest with the letter to Madame Aroma (you can deliver it yourself during the day, when you aren't required to show the mask to get in).

5) Blast Mask : Not saving the Old Lady from the Bomb Shop means no handy Blast Mask, which also prevents you from buying the All-Night Mask, UNLESS you use a Fire Arrow to hit Sakon (you basically blow him up alongside the Bomb Bag).  You won't get the Blast Mask from the Old Lady, but you will get a different comment from her, and since the bomb bag got blown up, the Curiosity Shop guy will have no choice but sell the All-Night Mask on the Final Night.

6) Bunny Hood : You don't get to receive the Bremen Mask anyway, but obviously no Bunny Hood means walking slowly everywhere... at least you can be a Goron on the road, but in smaller places and dungeons you'll just be slow.

7) Circus Leader's Mask : No downside to not getting this mask - it's only purpose is to make the 3 Gorman Brothers ball their eyes out.  At least this mask has some merit since without it, you're missing a big part of the ending!

8] Bremen Mask : I love listening to Guru Guru, but you don't get to do that.  Sadly that also means no Bunny Hood, since that is its main point.

9) Couple's Mask : Though it's the most satisfying sidequest, it's also the longest and most complicated one, and you only miss one Heart Piece by not getting it (Mayor Dotour's meeting).  But ending-wise you obviously miss Anju & Kafei's wedding... (though you don't actually SEE Kafei.)

So it's 9 masks you're not getting (10 if you count the Fierce Deity Mask), and with those, 3 heart pieces.  You actually ARE able to get all 4 heart pieces on the moon, since you can do al 4 minidungeons (you need 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 = 10 masks do get into all of them.  You have to ask the kids to go back (or just go into the blue light at the start), because you won't have any extra masks to give them at the end).
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Offline Fishman

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« #33 on: September 03, 2011 »

Well, small fry, you can still get the All-Night Mask if you deal with Sakon by sending a Fire Arrow his way!
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Offline Uber_Challenger

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« #34 on: September 03, 2011 »

You can actually use your sword as well to defeat him, Fishman. Do regular arrows work, though? I've always used the sword, so I've never tried regular arrows, at least not that I can remember.
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Offline Hyruleansoldier

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« #35 on: September 04, 2011 »

Well, small fry, you can still get the All-Night Mask if you deal with Sakon by sending a Fire Arrow his way!

Oh crap!  I forgot about that!  I knew I did that once and was mad because the bomb bag blew up so I didn't get to buy the bigger bomb bag.   I guess the Old Lady thanks you but doesn't give you the Blast Mask?  And since the bomb bag got blown up the Curiosity Shop guy will have to sell the All-Night mask?

I edited my posts (also in my Zelda Series Run thread), thanks Fishman

You can actually use your sword as well to defeat him, Fishman. Do regular arrows work, though? I've always used the sword, so I've never tried regular arrows, at least not that I can remember.

I'm pretty sure normal arrows make the bomb bag explode just like the powered up arrows.
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