Saddam Sentenced To Death

[rkfs]

yah, off topic...*ahem. saddam** anyone hear that?  bad cold.  

Anyone think it was one of Saddams boddy doubles that got killed and not the real one?  How many doubles did he have anyway?  10?  Thats all we heard when the war started, never heard anything else about it. :/

Well it doesn't really matter if they killed the real Saddam or not, he's out of power and even his former loyalists don't seem to care and have moved on to become more like the terrorists they were said to be in the first place.

[K-64]

Well it doesn't really matter if they killed the real Saddam or not, he's out of power and even his former loyalists don't seem to care and have moved on to become more like the terrorists they were said to be in the first place.

you cannot live by things that seem to be true because quite likely they aren't, but I'm glad Saddam's dead, about f****** time! Why are people against the death sentence? If that person killed one of your family, you would want them killed as slowly as possible.

[Twilight Wolf]

you cannot live by things that seem to be true because quite likely they aren't, but I'm glad Saddam's dead, about f****** time! Why are people against the death sentence? If that person killed one of your family, you would want them killed as slowly as possible.

You assume too much.  Believe it or not, some people are peaceful.  I for one am against the death penalty.  I do not believe one death justifies another.

[The Tao Of Bill]

you cannot live by things that seem to be true because quite likely they aren't, but I'm glad Saddam's dead, about f****** time! Why are people against the death sentence? If that person killed one of your family, you would want them killed as slowly as possible.

Want and justified are two different things. I could want to rob a store. Doesn't mean I should be able to. Killing a person does not bring back the murderers victims nor does it give the greiving party a sense of satisfaction. It just adds more blood to the table. It just means more people will be in mourning over the incident. It just means another life is destroyed.

[Witless]

You assume too much.  Believe it or not, some people are peaceful.  I for one am against the death penalty.  I do not believe one death justifies another.

Having the person locked up with a TV, exercise and a 3 part dinner isn't justified either. And then i'm not even talking about good behavior and reduced sentence.

[The Tao Of Bill]

Having the person locked up with a TV, exercise and a 3 part dinner isn't justified either. And then i'm not even talking about good behavior and reduced sentence.

What isn't justified about allowing prisoners to stay healthy? Also like I said if you took away their TV and excercise you would drive the prisoners insane which would make them unpredictable and uncontrollable. Which would mean we'd have to hire more guards and spend more money. You act like they are living like kings in prison...prison is a rough place to spend the rest of your life.

[Witless]

What isn't justified about allowing prisoners to stay healthy? Also like I said if you took away their TV and excercise you would drive the prisoners insane which would make them unpredictable and uncontrollable. Which would mean we'd have to hire more guards and spend more money. You act like they are living like kings in prison...prison is a rough place to spend the rest of your life.

TV, excercise and sigarettes are luxuries. Which murderers do not deserve to have.

[The Tao Of Bill]

TV, excercise and sigarettes are luxuries. Which murderers do not deserve to have.

TV's keep prisoners informed on the outside world which is important when and if a prisoner gets out on parole decades later. It eases the transition back into the real world. Excercise keeps prisoners from getting antsy from built up energy which would wind up being a control issue for many prison guards...and what is so luxurious about cigarrettes. I thought you were for the death penalty.

[LLR]

This thread gets about as off topic as any I have ever seen...

so..This thread is now in ALL RANGE MODE!

I'm am FOR the death penalty, a quick one at that, I am also for castration of people who are children rapists and repeat violent sex offenders.  Kill the filth and make it so they cant spread their genes anymore in the human race.  

Humph,  *back to topic*  I just feel Saddam could have been much more useful alive then dead.  Anyone agree?

[The Tao Of Bill]

talking about the death penalty is not off topic...that's pretty much what the topic's basis is...with a side of saddam...

[LLR]

ohhhok....  Was just hoping for more of the main theme *saddam*  seems he is a side dish in this thread though, all posts I've seen is just about the death penalty and nothing much about if it was a smart thing to do.  Theres a heck of a lot more to this than just "is THE death penalty right or wrong"  The political motives behind this are more intresting to me.

1) Was he killed for a cover up for the oil for food UN scandle?  better left alive and questioned..SOMEONE in the UN knew what was going on..
2) was it really him or a body double?
3) DID Saddam EVEN KNOW it was going to happen?  He sure didn't look like he knew...

these things = more intresting than the debate over is it right or wrong to up hold laws of man.



So I'll leave this dish to the folks hungry for debates over death penaltys...

[The Tao Of Bill]

ohhhok....  Was just hoping for more of the main theme *saddam*  seems he is a side dish in this thread though, all posts I've seen is just about the death penalty and nothing much about if it was a smart thing to do.  Theres a heck of a lot more to this than just "is THE death penalty right or wrong"  The political motives behind this are more intresting to me.

1) Was he killed for a cover up for the oil for food UN scandle?  better left alive and questioned..SOMEONE in the UN knew what was going on..
2) was it really him or a body double?
3) DID Saddam EVEN KNOW it was going to happen?  He sure didn't look like he knew...

these things = more intresting than the debate over is it right or wrong to up hold laws of man.



So I'll leave this dish to the folks hungry for debates over death penaltys...

no no don't feel like you CAN'T talk about saddam here. He is part of the topic too...

let me address your points...

1. I doubt it...Saddam wouldn't have been a very credable witness.

2. Also doubt it only because I could have sworn when they captured him they mentioned DNA tests.

3. Yes Saddam knew what was happening. his lawyers were making statements trying to stop it.

[LLR]

no no don't feel like you CAN'T talk about saddam here. He is part of the topic too...

let me address your points...

1. I doubt it...Saddam wouldn't have been a very credable witness.

2. Also doubt it only because I could have sworn when they captured him they mentioned DNA tests.

3. Yes Saddam knew what was happening. his lawyers were making statements trying to stop it.

Thanks Bill!  Glad ya understand where I'm comming from..  

so here my take on what you said

1)  Why wouldn't saddam make a good witness?  I'm sure someone could get some kind of info out of him and his dealings in the past...

2) Yeah! the DNA tests were when the troops caught him...I'm sure they didn't do that before the hanging.  The report said that USA Troops brought him to an area and dropped him off and turned over custody to the other guys.  Whos to say that, maybe even our guys turned over a body double, and kept the REAL Saddam.....or the people the troops met to turn over Saddam took him to some place else and then THEY used a body double.  

Call me crazy, but I can't see how they would just off him that soon.  Too many other things going on.   ..Did they DNA test the body of Saddam after?  I hadn't heard anything.

3)  is that what all the shouting was?  I didn't know if it was the hangers taunting him or what.  I guess the only way to really tell is if ya spoke arabic.  It just looked like Saddam had been told that it was a rehersal (sp?) or something,  he even seemed to laugh for a moment before they got the noose around his neck.  The looks on the guys face was not that of a man who knew he only had minutes to live.


whatcha folks think?

[JordAnime]

He's dead, and anybody who thinks otherwise can go die with him.

[LLR]

Then why have a thread talking about it?  sheesh.

ok, go back to talking about the death penalty

*walks away mumbling..*

[unlimited~ignorance]

I personally dont think it is right to make the decision to hang/kill someone. No one on this world has the right to choose whether someone lives or dies. I understand he has brought so much pain to many people, but I dont think he should have been killed. A lifetime in prison would be better for me. I guess it dosent matter now, hes dead, we can all sleep a little easier tonight! ^^

[Myahon]

I personally dont think it is right to make the decision to hang/kill someone. No one on this world has the right to choose whether someone lives or dies. I understand he has brought so much pain to many people, but I don't think he should have been killed. A lifetime in prison would be better for me. I guess it doesn't matter now, hes dead, we can all sleep a little easier tonight! ^^

Now perhaps if he died in Prison by something really embarrassing like being hugged to death by a cellmate named Bubba I'd feel better. I think hanging is to good for the man who buried people alive and fed them feet first into woodchippers. I do believe in the death penalty but to each his own. It's the Iraqi court's right to make that choice and I support their right to execute the man who wronged their people.

[Assault on Mind]

'bout frigging time. I know this is sorta old news but I just want to comment on it. All those against the death penalty say I!
All those for it say Death!
And those who don't care be quiet.
All I can say is I would of done it in a more... dramatic fashion maybe hung upside down untill he dies. Heh that would suck. But he killed more people than all who live in my entire city. So don't say "Yes I know it was right but it's still wrong." Think about the people who lost their family or just died. Hell if someone killed my family or me I'd want him to die.
 
He had it comin.

[Mikazukinoyaiba]

I only support the death penalty within specific circumstances.

I don't support it being done for retribution, for it accomplishes nothing and if death = retribution... then why not sentence all who have done someone wrong to death?

I only support death basically if keeping that person alives threathens the lives of others or well-being. Saddam, if he was kept alive indeed it would be a threat to many.

That is why I support his death sentence.