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Offline hupla

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« on: June 12, 2010 »

Well the day is almost here and of course, rumors are abound!

http://www.zeldainformer.com/2010/06/rumor-eiji-aonumas-first-page-at-e3-leaked-lots-of-zelda-wii-in
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Offline hisak

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« #1 on: June 12, 2010 »

YES! Excitement

The game tells a story several hundred years before Ocarina of Time.It also answers the question of how the Mastersword came into being.

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« #2 on: June 12, 2010 »

I really hope that first bit about no subtitle isn't true.
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Offline JordAnime

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« #3 on: June 13, 2010 »

I think Nintendo's keeping a pretty tight lid on this one, I really don't believe any of the rumors that exist are based on any knowledge of the game: if things turn out to be true, it'll likely be vaguely and coincidental.  That being said, I'm super stoked, I'm hoping Nintendo can turn the Zelda ship around with this one...
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« #4 on: June 13, 2010 »

Okay, let's have a look through these...

Zelda Wii's official title is "The Legend of Zelda". There will be no subtitle.

Then it will forever be known as Zelda Wii to avoid confusion with the NES original. Aonuma and Co are better than this.

The game tells a story several hundred years before Ocarina of Time.It also answers the question of how the Mastersword came into being.

Evil came, some sages made a sword to defeat said evil, evil was defeated. Why waste 20 hours of a game on a story which can be wrapped up in fewer than 20 words? Then again, the girl needs explaining, Link's lack of a sword in the artwork needs clarification. Could happen.

The fairy-like girl plays is a very important character in the game. Her Name is Zordiana.

First part: Well duh. Second part: Guess work. Also, awful name.

The Hookshot is also in the game and it has new abilities. It will not pull you immediately to the target you aimed. Now it is possible to swing with the Hookshot, like with the Grappling Hook from WW. The Hookshot makes no use of Wii Motion Plus.

Sounds like they've overcomplicated one of the simplest items in Zelda. If true...

Sometimes you have to "draw" a specific symbol on a door with your sword, to open it.

Because drawing things on doors is still fresh in our minds from PH and ST.

The Bow-Control is very similar to the Bow-Control in Wii Sports Resort, as the script shows.

May annoy some. So long as you don't have to do it in the heat of battle where Z-targetting would be far more appropriate, fine.

There are two levels of difficulty. Aonuma put it through. Miyamoto didn't want to include it.The Normal-Mode for amateurs. The Hero-Mode has no "Super Guide" included and the enemies tougher.

Sounds good to me. In addition, a Legend Mode should be unlocked upon completion of Hero Mode and long-time fans can rejoice. Or cry as it owns them.

The On-Stage Dungeon, which is also playable at E3, isn't a Dungeon as we know it from the Zelda series. When entering a Dungeon, you will not notice you are in one. It will be a smooth gradation. There will be Dungeons with no Bosses and Bosses with no Dungeon. The "Dungeon" you are able to play at E3 will be an Ice-Level. It will be the frist "Dungeon" in the Game.

Basic interpretation of the "structurally different" quote Aonuma threw out months back, cleverly interlaced with a shocking first dungeon twist.

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Offline The_Human_Cyborg

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« #5 on: June 13, 2010 »

I am sceptical, to say the least. Zordiana? C'mon! Nintendo should know that starting two important character's names with  a Z is a bad idea. And I agree that it's a terrible name by itself.

Also, their "confirmation" doesn't seem very sound...
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« #6 on: June 13, 2010 »

Also, their "confirmation" doesn't seem very sound...

True, but the promise of what they'll do if the rumours aren't true sounds great.

I, however, as the guy who did all the poking around and all the talking, am going to personally shove a Wii Remote up my nose while humming the Pink Panther theme if this ends up not being true in its entirety.

This is the internet, we will demand pictures.
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Offline FDLink

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« #7 on: June 13, 2010 »

I'm with you guys. These rumors don't sound so great to me. I much preferred the two previous batches of rumors from that Japanese forum, 2ch (or something).

I will say that the "no subtitle" rumor is intriguing. Assuming it's true, would this portend a Batman Begins-style reboot of the Zelda franchise altogether?

I'm still skeptical, despite Zelda Informer's "confirmation," either way.
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Offline The_Human_Cyborg

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« #8 on: June 13, 2010 »

Or we could get a horrible slight restyle like the mess Sonic The Hedgehog (2006) was...
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Offline JordAnime

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« #9 on: June 14, 2010 »

Remember back when Nintendo had its last major leak before an E3?  Oh wait, I don't.  I'm pretty sure it's because it never happened.  Sometimes information about new systems get leaked out early but that's about it.  Remember back to 2003 and Miyamoto said "We've got a new Cel Shaded Zelda in the works" and that was it.  Everyone was expecting that to be shown at E3 2004 but instead we got the realistic Zelda.  I'm just saying if Nintendo wants to keep the lid on something it can. 

Don't believe the rumors.
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« #10 on: June 14, 2010 »

Remember back when Nintendo had its last major leak before an E3?  Oh wait, I don't.  I'm pretty sure it's because it never happened.
You mean like that ridiculous rumor that the second GameCube Zelda would be called "Twilight Princess"?

Nintendo isn't impervious to leaks. These look completely fake, but that doesn't mean all Nintendo leaks are.
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Offline JordAnime

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« #11 on: June 14, 2010 »

You mean like that ridiculous rumor that the second GameCube Zelda would be called "Twilight Princess"

Pretty sure that wasn't a "leak", if you'll recall the game was demoed BEFORE its debut at E3 that year, particularly, the foreign started to release information that they weren't supposed to until after E3.  Also, I believe the name "Twilight Princess" was rumored like, hours before the final name was given...  

Remember when it was rumored that it was called Reigns of Sorrow, Ride of Melancholy and gates of the realm?   Not saying Nintendo is leak proof but all of these rumors just smell like bullshit.  I may be eating my words in 48 hours, but I somehow doubt it.
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« #12 on: June 14, 2010 »

Also, I believe the name "Twilight Princess" was rumored like, hours before the final name was given...
And this is coming only a few days before the show. Again, I'm agreeing with you that the rumors are probably bullshit, but I'm saying that it's better to look around and see if there's anything backing up the rumor (see: Donkey Kong) before dismissing it.
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Offline Be_yourself

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« #13 on: June 14, 2010 »

RE: Drawing a specific symbol on the door to open it.

What is the point of that?  Does it mean every time we walk up to a door we have to draw, for example, that deku swirl to open it? instead of just pressing A? it doesn't sound fun and its not revoloutionary or anything like that, it sounds like a weak cheap gimmick.  
Or perhaps does it mean there are puzzle doors and this is sort of like a key? even so, merely drawing the item on the door is not going to be difficult, unless the 1:1 controls are not as good as we hope and we have to spend 10 minutes fiddling around because we can't draw a perfect circle freehand.  

Although, if there were say magic symbols you could draw with your sword...say one for dins fire, one to open secret doors etc(not just a normal door, say you draw it on a suspicious looking cliff face and it a magic door appears) that may be quite good, but if it is just one of those things, i.e talking to animals or spinner tracks, that are really only situational then i don't care, and urgh...i just hope that isn't the revolutionary new face of zelda...

And EA i kinda like the developed hookshot idea, i think they should try to have a small bunch of core items for link, i.e sword, bow, hookshot etc. and give them many varied abilities.  i think it would encourage more creative use of items instead of spamming items like the spinner and ball and chain that can only be used in limited situations...
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« #14 on: June 14, 2010 »

I'm also registering with the "Do Not Want" party, should these rumors contain any truth.  The only 2 that really draw me are the Hero Mode (challenge is sorely needed) and the seamless Dungeon transitions (a nice change or pace, though I'm was never one of those "sick of hub overworld" people).

Yet, I remain skeptical of the validity of these supposed leaks.  I want to hear it officially from Nintendo before I do any serious grumbling or praising.

I do, however, still have that kid-on-Christmas-Eve excitement in me.
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« #15 on: June 14, 2010 »

Yeah, I'm just going to go out on a limb and call BS on all those rumors.

I think someone on another site said it best when they said it's probably just ZI trolling people for the lulz.
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Offline Be_yourself

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« #16 on: June 14, 2010 »

I'm also registering with the "Do Not Want" party, should these rumors contain any truth.  The only 2 that really draw me are the Hero Mode (challenge is sorely needed) and the seamless Dungeon transitions (a nice change or pace, though I'm was never one of those "sick of hub overworld" people).

Yet, I remain skeptical of the validity of these supposed leaks.  I want to hear it officially from Nintendo before I do any serious grumbling or praising.

I do, however, still have that kid-on-Christmas-Eve excitement in me.

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« #17 on: June 14, 2010 »

I'm going to have to agree with whoever said ZI is just trolling us with these rumors--I feel like this especially after the "confirmation" of the German translator or whatever.

These sound like they could be plausible extrapolations of previous information that we've gotten. But mostly these rumors just sound crap, and I hope they're untrue. I'll take them one at a time.

Zelda Wii's official title is "The Legend of Zelda". There will be no subtitle.

Yeah, no. Just because there was no subtitle on the poster revealed last year doesn't mean there is none. Also it's a terrible idea. Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, anyone?

The game tells a story several hundred years before Ocarina of Time.It also answers the question of how the Mastersword came into being.

I'm meh on this one. I think I sort of preferred the original rumor about this game starring the Hero of Time 7 years after the child ending (and MM). Frankly I don't really care when the game takes place so long as the game itself is awesome.

The fairy-like girl plays is a very important character in the game. Her Name is Zordiana.

The first part is duh, and the second part--yeah, I liked "Adelle" better.

The Hookshot is also in the game and it has new abilities. It will not pull you immediately to the target you aimed. Now it is possible to swing with the Hookshot, like with the Grappling Hook from WW.

So one of the brand new abilities of this new Hookshot is the amazing ability to aim at a target and not immediately pull yourself over? THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY STUFF! Um, yeah, this is almost certainly a false rumor. The Hookshot as Grappling Hook has some potential, though.

The Hookshot makes no use of Wii Motion Plus.

Eh.

Sometimes you have to "draw" a specific symbol on a door with your sword, to open it.

Because that was such a huge hit with fans in PH and ST. Plus, who the hell draws with a sword? Are people actually believing any of these rumors?

The Bow-Control is very similar to the Bow-Control in Wii Sports Resort, as the script shows.

Script? What script? Also, I've never played Wii Sports Resort, so this is meaningless to me.

However, from everything I've heard from those who have played Wii Sports Resort, the Bow just got a lot more difficult and complicated to use and will be particularly inefficient in the heat of battle. Oh joy.

There are two levels of difficulty. Aonuma put it through. Miyamoto didn't want to include it.The Normal-Mode for amateurs. The Hero-Mode has no "Super Guide" included and the enemies tougher.

I actually don't have a problem with this. While I would play through Hero Mode, the completionist in me would probably have to play Normal Mode too just to experience everything.

Assuming all of this is true, of course, which I still doubt heavily.

The On-Stage Dungeon, which is also playable at E3, isn't a Dungeon as we know it from the Zelda series. When entering a Dungeon, you will not notice you are in one. It will be a smooth gradation. There will be Dungeons with no Bosses and Bosses with no Dungeon. The "Dungeon" you are able to play at E3 will be an Ice-Level. It will be the frist "Dungeon" in the Game.

This sounds like pure extrapolation from a previous Nintendo comment, "TP is the last game of its kind." How exactly does one move gradually from overworld to dungeon? Dungeons are almost invariably indoors. Sure there are exceptions like WW's Forsaken Fortress and Forbidden Woods, TP's City in the Sky, and even those courtyard rooms in OoT's Forest Temple. And especially starting with an ice stage? This just sounds like too much of a stretch to me.
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« #18 on: June 14, 2010 »

Yup, so far the only valid sounding rumors to me are the bow control and Difficulty levels. The others I see as having a 50% chance are the hookshot redesign and the sword-drawing thing, though I hope the latter eill be better designed than the PH ST ones. The rest are just hit and miss.

One more day! 
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Offline JordAnime

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« #19 on: June 15, 2010 »

There's a lot of last minute rumors flying around, I think largely because Nintendo hasn't peeped a word about the game in months.  In any event, in just about fourteen hours, we'll all know the truth, in the words of Ray Arnold, "Hold on to your butts"
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